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SPOILERS: True Blood Season 4 Summary Revealed

Bill Compton, Sookie Stackhouse, Eric Northman, True Blood, Anna Paquin, Stephen Moyer, Alexander SkarsgardThe fourth season of True Blood hasn’t even begun filming yet, but the first spoiler about season 4 was released by TV Guide, and though the details provided are vague, we now have an idea about a few plot lines that True Blood’s fourth season will follow.

Alan Ball‘s Emmy-nominated supernatural drama returns for a chilling fourth season that finds barmaid Sookie (Anna Paquin) reeling from revelations about her heritage and the real reason why her vampire boyfriend, Bill (Stephen Moyer), first sought a relationship with her. Now that she knows why she is a telepath, Sookie is unsure about which path to follow, while vengeful vampire Eric (Alexander Skarsgård) escalates his deadly feud with Bill.

Add this to the amnesia plot line that we already knew about, and it sounds like season 4 is going to be the best season of True Blood so far!

What do you think of this new reveal? Let us know in the comments.

SOURCE: tvguide.com — Watch True Blood – True Blood: Season 4

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374 comments
giannis tselas

melody havent u heard anything about torrents?

Aimee Hudson

Book 4 was and still is my fav to date, so far HBO has messed around quite a bit with the book storylines… I really hope this one stays more true or I think I will stop watching the show 🙁

Kim Perez

seeing as how the queen doesnt get married to the king granted to a different king but none the less bill and her are fighting to the death now i dont see her getting married again soon and the whole hadley thing doest even come out til book 6 and they just had a whole season about it in #3 i would say they are def. mixing things up. she doesnt even find out she is a fairy until eh 8th book. and i hope VD does play Quinn since the character was based on him and for good reasons. he fits the part perfectly everythign Quinn says in the book i could hear him saying and acting.

Diana Reilly

My”comment”…I’m a hard-core SCARSGARD fan. Alexander Scarsgard …is WHY I watch True Blood. I ‘caught the show by accident one summer night 3 seasons ago !! It was Alexander Scarsgard’s ‘entrance..in Fangtasia…That got ME “interested”. I went out aND BOUGHT Charlaine Harris novels…found out WHO…ERIC…and Sookie were…and all about their ‘story’ etc. Alexander Scarsgard …”Turned” me into a fan !! BUT I’m more a fan of ERIC as written by Harris….Alan Ball’s Eric was ‘cheated’…not given half the ‘character’ & background ‘color’ that Harris gave our ‘viking’.. ANYWAY………….I LOVE THE SHOW….!!! ( just have to read my books to get my ERIC ‘fix’ ) CAST of True Blood is FANTASTIC…. and Alan Ball is the Genius bringing us all this FUN in the summer nights !! ( He should ‘write himself a ‘part’….he’s ..’handsome man too). GOOD LUCK to ALL ..SUCCESS HBO . !!!.SEASON 4 !!! and MANY MORE !!!

Anonymous

I know the show doesn’t exactly follow the books but that is what happened in the books. The queen had Bill seduce Sookie. I think in the show as well as the books, Eric does things for Eric. Bill was in his way to getting Sookie and that’s the reason he told her. The truth was a means to an end.

Anonymous

I really think vin disel would be great as Quinn. Since they are doing the pit fighting, maybe they could do a small cameo for Vin Disel. He fits the description well and he has a great voice. However, he should be saved for season 5. Season 4 should be all about Soukie and Eric. And to answer the question, they have mixed books 3 and 4 for season 3, so I’m sure they’ll probably mix book 4 with future books. But we’ll see. Book 4 was good in and of itself.

~ Caitlin

I know Missyella, sometimes I almost forget that the first season takes place maybe 1 month, and season 2 and 3 takes place over a week or two each. All three seasons are just a 2 or 3 months. It’s a little ridiculous when you think about it. Season 4 will have a 1 years time jump so that is good. The time frame gets a little confusing in the books as well.

Missyella

Hi everyone, I have only recently rejoined the forum from England where we are just into Season 3.

I think the most important thing we keep forgetting is that All the events take place over months, so we have love, deceit, a fair amount of lying etc between them all, and that we are now approaching season 4, it just seems like years.

I am of course an Eric fan and make no aplogies for it and of course can see the supporters of Bill’s pont of view.

So it pains me to read negative comments still being posted.

I am all for fair and respectable comments, there is enough space for all…………..

mich

i agree with you whole heartedly mel, the only point I was trying to make is the reasons WHY eric told her, not that he was being honorable!! I NEVER said his intentions were heart felt by any means, i’m jjust saying i would’ve done the same thing eric did out of malice. I do believe he also loves sookie, in an ERIC type of way. And I do believe bill loves her with his WHOLE heart, body and soul. but i DONOT believe sookie loves Bill, at least not with her whole heart or she wouldv;e forgivin him under ANY circumstance. I dont believe sookie deserves Bill, i believe sookie and eric are perfect for eachother because they are both self obsorbed, both believe they, as well as their feelings, are above anyone elses, and they both believe their shit doesn’t stink. Please stop thinking everyone is ganging up on you and Bill, it makes me feel guilty for liking eric over bill, it’s just opinions. And if ALL these people are seeing the same thing and only a very small handful are seeing bill differently, ya ever think there’s a reason? God, that sounded harsh and i’m sorry please dont be mad… it just reminds me of my mother that always bitches about how every one is an ass hole at work, and everyone gets along with each other and she’s the outsider, so i asked her, ” ya ever think it’s YOU and not THEM?” That’s what i’m saying about BIll… Everyone see’s something the same and a small few view it differently. it’s not wrong, just different. I feel bad when everyone gangs up on Bill, cause i DO agree that he did that stuff BEFORE he loved her… If it was me, as Bill, I would NOT have told sookie either! SO i believe bill did what any other human would have. Eric told for self satisfying reasons, he had motive and it worked. Ultimatley, all’s fair in love and war? Sorry honey please dont be mad at me, you know how sensitive i am You’re still one of my fav’s Bill or not! I love reading your posts you make me see Bill the way you do everytime. I can still justify what eric did for ERIC reasons. and quite frankly, sookie doesn’t deserve someone as good as Bill has become. He needs someone more like Arlene that needs security and catering too. He’s a nurturer, Sookie needs to be babied like a spoiled brat and put in her place, Bill can not play that roll…

jaxx

Melody, no one said Bill procured the Rattrays to beat up Sookie, the Rattrays went to beat up Sookie on their own b/c she saved Bill from being drained and cost them money. The point in dispute is that Bill watched the whole thing and did nothing about it until Sookie was near death.

Melody

IF I see in the next season that Bill actually did procur the Rattrays to beat up Sookie, then I will agree, she needed to be told. But as of right now, I think you all give Eric way too much credit for telling her…you make it an honorable thing to do. I don’t think so…not one bit. Why did he tell her now? Why when he almost got cemented? He was PISSED. He didn’t do it for Sookie or for any honor, he did it for Eric. When she said is this true, and he said yes, I have yet to see that he meant the Rattrays, the part about QSA was true. Big deal. So, if I fall in love with someone and they love me and it goes on for say, 10 years, and he has been nothing but good to me, do I care that someone bet him he couldn’t get me? Do I care about how the meeting came about? No, I love him. LOVE HIM. I also stand by my thoughts that Sookie is wishy washy and perhaps she doesn’t deserve Bill….I’m not that way…. I care that he loves me NOW….he didn’t know me then…so what?
You all can have Eric…to me he’s not honorable, he didn’t come to Sookie’s rescue from Bill’s untrusting self, he was only concerned about Eric. If he knew Bill was planning some great demise for Sookie, okay, tell her….this was just Eric being Eric..and wanting it all…at any cost….somewhat narcissistic actually. But, I’m so outnumbered….I’m in the middle of an Eric lovefest…next season might have some more answers for me…I hope so…I’m not going to just go on what others “think” Eric is “thinking”…..I’d rather just go with what I see happening…and I see Bill loving her, regardless of how it all began.

mich

Elise. I just read all those posts and yours was the shortest and best written. Sookie DID beg and beg Eric to tell her what Bill was hiding, so he told her. simple as that. and Bill deserved it after trying to have Eric buried in cement, fight for your women like a man instead of having him buried, how bout just fight for her? tell her what you did and own up to it maybe? Eric wouldn’t have had to even tell sookie if he wouldv’e just told her himself right? really…. it’s not rocket science!

Elise

Guys, people keep asking why Eric told her. The whole season 3 she’s been asking him about this, the whole season she’s been “tell me why I can’t trust Bill!” and then she drags him back inside and saves his life. And after all that, Bill tried to kill him. Dude, he knows Bill better then all of us, maybe he figured telling her was the least he could do, to tell her that her boyfriend is a crappy boyfriend. And, by the way, sign #22 that your relationship is on the rocks is when your girlfriend would rather ask Eric Norhman then you when she suspects you are hiding something. Yeah, she already knows he is untrustworthy.

jaxx

Melody, I have to agree with Elise and Caitlin.

Bill was sent by the queen to procure Sookie. Bill wanted to secure Sookie’s trust. While I don’t think Bill set the Rattrays up to beat Sookie to near death, Bill stood by, watched and then intervened when Sookie was paralzyed and near death. He knew if he gave her his blood, she would heal and then trust him. That’s just despicable.

Eric is Sheriff of Area 5, so I guess he is Bill’s boss.

Eric did not lie when he told Sookie the truth about the Rattrays. We saw it in a flashback.

Sookie to Bill: “Oh my God, is it true?”
Bill of Sookie: “Yes” (with a very guilty nod of the head)

As far as your comment: “Does it really matter?” Yes, I think it does.

At this point, Eric had enough respect for Sookie to tell her the truth so she wouldn’t be made a fool of by Bill any longer. Eric told Bill “Why don’t you tell her the f’ckn truth?” and made other references to Bill telling Sookie the truth. Bill had numerous opportunities to come clean to Sookie, but chose not to. That’s not Eric’s fault. Bill tried to cement Eric to keep him quiet about it.

If I found out after falling in love with someone and sleeping with someone that they had been lying to me the whole time and nearly got me killed to win my trust and love, I would have done the same thing Sookie did. I would not have an ounce of respect for her myself if she didn’t throw them both out as she did.

In the beginning Sookie was only a “job” for Bill. But once he started developing feelings for her, he should have come clean about everything with her. He claims he was “protecting her”. Well, his “protection methods” leave a lot to be desired.

Whether he loves her or not, to me, is irrelevant considering their whole relationship was based on lies from the beginning. You just can’t say “Oh well, he loves me” and forget about it.

Did Eric want Sookie? Sure he did. Did he flirt with her? Absolutely. Did her test her and her love for Bill? No doubt. This happens in everyday life. When Sookie said no, Eric respected her for it. And, that kiss was a 2 way street. Sookie kissed him back proving she has repressed feelings for Eric.

IMO, Eric was saving Sookie’s honor by telling her the truth.

Elise

Melody, first of all, why is it so hard to believe that Eric may actually have a moral code and wanted her to know ? It is consistent with his character. Eric doesn’t lie to women very often. I understand that he has a tendency to be crude, violent, brutal, but he makes a point not to lie. Yes, he lied and manipulated the whole sucking of the bullets thing, but that was a lie for a whole of 5 minutes, and he was not her boyfriend. Bill lied to her while sleeping with her and telling her he loved her. He tells Sookie from the beginning how he wants her, how he wants to use her skill, and not just Sookie, but other women as well. When hiring Yvetta he promises her a good job and good sex; crude, yes, but he delivers. When she gets mad at him for not putting her in his will, he calls her a gold-digging whore. Crude, mean, but honest. She is. Has he lied to a single woman he had “relations” with? If Eric was a liar, Sookie wouldn’t have spent two seasons hating him. He would play into her affections, behave properly, and treated her in a way that would have predisposed him towards her. The fact that she hated him means that he did not give her a false impression of himself.

Why was it his business? Because its the right thing to do. Because they’ve bonded (as friends.) Because he feels that to lie to her is disrespectful, and by not telling her he is just as bad as Bill. Why was it a big deal? I know that if I were to find out, I would be royally pissed off as well. Because a relationship under false pretenses is a false relationship. Oh, yeah, and it was a huge insult, to lie to her, to see her every day and tell her that he loved her and then not tell her. I’d be insulted.

Second of all, QSA didn’t just tell him to get to know her, she told him to procure her – that’s a little different. Procuring sounds like “do anything you have to in order that you can manipulate this woman to come to me.” I just can’t believe that a man actually tells a woman the truth about a guy that she almost died over and people are mad at him! So, you are saying that its ok if Sookie never finds out?

No, Eric is not a gentleman. He is, however, honorable. Gentleman sounds like good manners to me. Honorable sounds like someone who behaves in a way a gentleman is supposed to act.

Another thing that makes me wonder though, he told her in the beginning of the series that Bill is not who she thinks he is. One lie doesn’t explain it. What else are we going to find out about our friend Mr. Compton? I bet you there is a can of worms here that doesn’t end with this one lie.

Sheila

Hey Antonio, just a thought about your speculation. Interesting to say the least except that swearing fealty and loyalty? That’s a Vamp thing, I don’t see that applying to Sookie, but more than that, Sookie already promised Eric she would help whenever he asked with her gifts so what would be the point of that? But as to a normal life, I have said it before, I think that Sookie has become an adreniline junkie, and is too involved in the rush of her new life now to be able to just walk away. But I do see the drama with Bill and QSA driving Sookie to Eric.

Melody

With all due respect, why do all the Eric lovers think it was Eric’s duty to tell Sookie about what Bill did in the very BEGINNING???? When you stop and think about it, really, did it matter? In the big scheme of things, he had an ulterior motive for getting to know her, it didn’t hurt her, who cares what his reasons were? The mere fact that he met her because the queen told him to means nothing. IF he had her hurt by the Ratrays, that’s entirely different….but that is only what ERIC says and as far as I’m concerned, he can’t be trusted. It’s not a fact from the books, so we may find out next season that Eric made it up.
BUT, my biggest point is this…..who died and left Eric boss??? lol….really…..WHY did Sookie have to know what Bill’s motives were in the beginning??? Did it hurt her?? Was it an insult?? He certainly showed time after time after time that his intentions were good once he got to know her…..so what? Because QSA told him to go into Merlotte’s and get to know her, or because he walked in on his own, what does it matter to Sookie or anyone else. He didn’t sleep with her because of QSA, he found out before that that she was a telepath, anthing after that revelation was entirely for the betterment of their relationship. Bill loves Sookie…not for QSA, not for anything other than he loves Sookie, and he is willing to die the real death for her.
Eric on the other hand felt pissed, so he told Sookie and he told her because he wanted to make her hate Bill and love him ( or at least have sex with him, or whatever, he wants to own her). He didn’t tell Sookie because he was protecting Sookie from Bill. Eveything that happened after he found out what QSA wanted to know was on his own.
So, Eric told Sookie the truth to piss her off and make her not trust Bill. That’s all. That’s it. He’s not great gentleman, he’s not saving her from Russell or Franklin or some monster….HE, ERIC, wants her. Plain and simple…and he couldn’t fight fair…..he had to throw in his big secret from the past…..”Bill only met you cuz Sophie Anne told him to!!”…..”na na na na na……” like you guys said, on a playground……”I’ll be your best friend……if you like me, he did this, ….I didn’t……he tried to cement me……”…..lol…….Eric lovers give him some great pat on the back for that….why? He wasn’t saving her from anything, for heaven’s sake……you can’t make up what you think he was thinking….Eric takes what he wants and throws away what he doesn’t want….so he was loyal to Pam and Godrich….how does that make him a hero? I just have to laugh how it gets spun around…..he told her cuz he wants Bill out of the picture and he wants her. That’s it. That’s what it looks like in the books and that’s what it looks like in the series. IMHO…..lol…..

~ Caitlin

Hi everyone,

No suprise that I agree with you jaxx. Eric gave Bill an ample amount of time to tell Sookie the truth. Bill would not admit it. Sookie even asked Bill on several occasions what else he was keeping from her.

Antonio I think Eric was very close to telling Sookie about Bill when she came to Fangtasia but Pam interrupted them. Sookie did ask Eric to tell her the truth so he was answering a question asked of him. It would not have been wise of Eric to tell Sookie the truth at that time because she would have reacted badly ( and reasonably so). In part, Eric did want to stick it to Bil( again he was justified in doing so) but he really did think Sookie deserved to know the truth. After the attempted murder by Bill, Eric knew Bill would go to extremes to keep his secret. Honestly, I do not think Eric wanted to even be the one to tell Sookie the truth. That is why Eric tried to get Bill to do it. Eric had to have known he would recieve backlash for it. “Don’t kill the messenger”. Yes, Sookie basically told Eric where he could go… It was a lose lose situation for Eric. Eventually, the secret would have come out. If Sookie found out that Eric knew about it and did not tell her, she would have been even more enraged. Eric is not on Sookies list of favorite people at the moment.

I think AB mentioned that Gran would be coming back to the show in some form. As to when, I do not know. Probably, faeland.

Jaxx, I do not think Bill was in faeland. I think he was at the portal. He was in the cemetery. Remember, Sookie disappeared from the cemetery in the last episode. Bill was still in it.

You can never count out the under dog. Eric could go into a fight with Bill and be over confident so that could be a disadvantage for Eric. I still think he would beat Bill though becasue as Godric said Eric was one of the best warrior and he is 1,000 years old. You never know though, it only takes one loss of focus or distraction. I’m sure Eric will be on his guard around Bill know. There is the sayin “Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me”. Eric is even more ticked of now that he knows Bill sent a hit out on Pam too. Eric is all about loyalty.

Really good point about the sense of smell Elise. Even Bill could not deny that Sookie had feelings for Eric. I think Erics confidence will be shaken when it comes to Sookie. We all know he likes to be in control of things. He cannot control his feeling for Sookie.

jaxx

Elise, yes book 4 is all about Eric and Sookie, but Hunter wasn’t introduced in the books until the 9th book and Hadley didn’t show up until book 5 or 6 either, only a mention beforehand, so it’s quite possible Quinn could make an appearance at the end of S4, although they should have enough material with the witches involved for S4. Don’t want to overcrowd S4 but who knows???

Elise

Doesn’t Quinn come out in Book 5? Isn’t Book 4 about the relationship between Sookie and Eric and the witches and so Quinn can’t be in S4 because she is with Eric the whole time? Unless you think they’ll mix several books into one season. Do you think that’s a possibility?

Melody

The Rock would be cool, but I can’t see him playing a really intense role after “The Tooth Fairy”….he’s been playing such comic roles.
I hope not Billy Zane, he’s a little long in the tooth, dont you think? Same with the Hulk….we need a young, big, dark, hunk…I don’t remember seeing the actor who is playing Alcide in anything else before, so maybe they will go with another newbie. I think VD would be smart to go for it, it’s such a popular show now, it could only help his career.
Mich, it’s okay, don’t be sorry! I could have looked it up myself, lol…too lazy I guess.

Elise

I think he was feeling something for her before the kiss too, jaxx. 🙂

jaxx

Antonio, in the beginning, yes, I think Eric would have and did use Sookie for his own personal gain but at the end of S3 and in next season, I think we’re going to see a different Eric, one who really cares about Sookie. It already started even before Russell wanted Eric to bite Sookie first and he gulped several times and really didn’t want to hurt her. I truly believe Eric was sorry when he told Sookie he was. I really don’t think he wants to hurt her. He even said he never would have given her to Russell and I believe him. I think they both felt someone for each other after that kissing scene. 2 seasons ago, he would have given her to anyone. Not any more.

jaxx

Ohhh Elise, good observation about the smelling thing. I guess I never thought about that. Bill can feel Sookie too so she can’t hide her attraction to Eric from Bill, even if she thinks she hiding it from herself or him. LOL. And, yes, God did break the mold when he made Eric. LMAO. Only joking people!!! 😉

jaxx

Antonio, I agree that Eric did try to hurt Bill by telling Sookie the truth, but I truly believe Eric thought enough was enough and thought Sookie should know. Did he have selfish reasons as well??? Probably, but Eric did give Bill numerous opportunities to tell Sookie the truth. He even said so when they were having a discussion and Sookie interrupted. Eric told Bill (not verbatim) “Why don’t you tell Sookie the F’n truth?” So, he did give him opportunities to fess up, Bill just didn’t. Besides I think that’s also pay back for dumping him in cement and trying to seal him in. LOL. Paybacks a beotch!!!

Elise

Isis, that story I was talking about before, “Late”, the fiction about Eric and Sookie, is un-be-li-ev-ab-le! I hate to blaspheme, but in its own way its actually better and more historically accurate then the Sookie Stackhouse books! I actually think that the “Late” writer is a better writer then Charliene Harris! In the beginning, it was a little awkward, and she got too descriptive, but the story is just so much cool, you can’t imagine. Apparently she intended for it to be kind of like a soap opera about Eric and Sookie, not a novel, so she makes chapter postings, and so far she uploaded 78 chapters.

I’m on the last chapter, and the story is so involved. There is magic, there are all these interesting rules and laws, and in the midst she talks about witches, but not as the original novels did, she doesn’t just brush over it, she explains things. When you read it, you can tell that she is probably a practicing Wicca person herself because she gives all this intricate information about the history of the world, how it was matriarchal in the beginning, but how christianity brought patriarchy into the world and killed all religions that worshipped women, and how it taught people to be ashamed of their bodies and of their desires, to blame women for fall from grace, to be afraid of sin, which is actually quiet true, although I’d probably would have referenced the Hebrew in lieu of Christian history, as it is also heavily patriarchal… There is an interesting plot were Eric had a connection with an ancient goddess Freya and a relationship with her, and how she reentered his life through Sookie, and it creates this incredible twist to both of them. I mean, this is not the kind of text where the writer would accidentally call Zeus a Roman God, like Mrs. Harris did.

This is if you don’t mind elements of S&M relationship with very intense conversations of choice and why people enjoy that type of this, which I don’t mind at all. Its kind of funny to see this story go EXACTLY where I would send it to if I wrote it. I’m serious, I am enjoying this story more then the books, which is pretty scary…

Elise

I don’t think Eric will dismiss her and forget her, he is so proud, and smug. He is the stronger, smarter, older vampire. Its like an Olympic race, and he is the top contender. Top contenders don’t walk away with “I didn’t want it anyway.” His pride wouldn’t take it, that “he, so handsome, so smart, so powerful, so good in bed (“you seem surprised; is Bill’s stamina not up to snuff?) could possibly NOT get that human, that delicious volatile, immature, overly emotional about that bug called Bill in my area that I could squash if forcing him to jump through hoops wasn’t so amusing, strawberry blond human?!” – I just making fun here. I love Eric, but we all know he thinks that God broke the mold on him and all his body parts when he made him. He couldn’t walk away, it would eat him forever. Bill is great against the backdrop of Sam Merlott, but in a fight between Bill and Eric, Eric is the Alpha male. Not every woman wants that, I know. But we do respond to it. 🙂

He doesn’t even doubt he will one day, he acts like “oh, well, I guess not today. Probably in a few days, tomorrow. I got time 🙂 ” You know what I’m thinking? This is a crazy X-rated idea, but maybe the reason Bill got so desperately jealous and Eric got more and more confident that he’ll be with her, is because they have such a heightened sense of smell. Maybe Eric SMELLED how she felt about him, and so did Bill? I mean, picture this, Bill and Sookie are together alone, then Eric walks in, and her heart rate rises and her… smell permeates the room and becomes… inviting. Its not like Bill would tell her, or Eric.

mich

Antonio, THE ROCK?? REALLY? HELLLLL YEAHHHHH !!!

Antonio

I dont know Who would make a good Quinn. VD would be good but i dont think hed want to do this. He does Mostly action films. Maybe if they got a former porn star or bodybuilder?
Maybe Lou Ferrigno? He’s used to doing Tv! The Rock (Dwayne Johnson) would be cool! I think they did a great job casting Alcide Herveaux last year! maybe Channing Tatum?

Antonio

Regarding a Showdown between Bill and Eric? I suppose That is Inevitable at This point. I feel bad for Bill. Eric seems like the type who always lands on his feet! Were He to lose Sookie hed feel bad..somewhat but hed dismiss her as just another “foolish human”. Anyway,Hes got his Own issues to work out,Maybe Pam could help him with that? Bill,on the other hand,Was Really in Love with Sookie! Eric deliberately hurt Bill when he told Sookie the truth about Bill! Eric said he was “sorry for her pain,but he felt she HAD to know??”

IF he was SO Concerned about THIS matter,Why didnt he tell her earlier?? He Didnt tell her for Her..I believe he told her to attack back against Bill! This All reminds me of the actions of 2 grade school boys fighting on the playground! I keep hearing “HE Started It!” Oy! Eric..Bill Enough,ok??
I’ll go get a ruler..We’ll settle this!!
LMAO 🙂

mich

and agian, it was 2010, not 2011…. so sorry melody i DONT know the date, was too quick to look. Caitlin foound it to be on this site so the 12th is a good day for me :0)

Antonio

I dont know if this makes Any sense to you,But, I think it had to do with Bill ingesting SO Much of Sookie’s Fae blood. Claudine spoke of Bill stealing her “light” Maybe That was 1 of the ways? Could it be that Sookie’s blood could “cure” him of being a Vampire?? When Sookie received So Much of Bill’s blood the effect on her was being able to fight off Debbie and V fueled “grudge sex” with Bill! I hope That helps.

mich

caitlin, I went on the google again and the HBO site had posted they just signed on for the 21st, of course nothing i ever seem to know or find is right so it must be the 12th, sorry Melody. Just got that in a different spot.

~ Caitlin

I think it starts June 12th not the 21st. At least that is what is said in an article on this site.

CH had Vin in mind when she created the character of Quinn. However, I don’t know if they would be able to get him for the show since he usually does films. You never know. Some people mentioned that guy who played Roses fiance in Titanic (Billie Zane). I think he would be a good pick.

mich

Melody, season 4 is June 21st!! not soon enough! when i google “who is going to be Quinn on true blood” Vin deisel popped up, so that’s why i thought it was him…. Isis says it’s not though, so I got all excited for nothing lol. This is taking forever!! They actually have WALL size pic’s of the cast of true blood for over the bed on ebay lol…. life size! and it’s a HUGE sticker, i’m way out of hand

Melody

Fellow Fantasy Fangbangers! I am having withdrawal symptoms…..I swear. I can only read and reread and watch and rewatch seasons 1 and 2 for so long and HBO isn’t showing season 3 in our area any more.
What’s the date for season 4? Geez…..And I know I’m late on this one, but I think Vin Diesal is a great cast for Quinn. I LOVE him. That voice, that bod, yep, I could dig it.

Elise

Ok, how can you stake someone accidentally? And why would you submerge yourself between two vampires with a stake? Sookie doesn’t want either one of them dead, or she wouldn’t have saved Bill from Russell or Eric from sunlight, so why would she take the effort to go find a stake?

jaxx

There will be a showdown between Eric and Bill no doubt. They each had wronged the other and they both want Sookie. That’s why the amnesia plotline will work this season. While I loved that Eric had amnesia in the books and DTTW was Eric’s and Sookie’s book, I think it would be more intersting in TB to have Sookie has amnesia. She will be on equal footing with everyone until she remembers again. JIMO, I think Sookie will come back from faeland with her memories wiped clean because she is so distraught and heartbroken. She said she was so hurt and lost and I think Claudine may help her forget for a while.

Wouldn’t it be wild if Gran was there or she would be able to see Gran again in faeland???

One question that just keeps bugging me, how and why was Bill able to go to faeland??? He’s a vamp and should not have been allowed there?? He was dressed in “Godric” white too?? What is the connection?? Is Bill some type of vamp/fae mixture himself??

Antonio

I agree. At Some point,However,There will be a Showdown between Eric and Bill! At Some point,They Will fight over Sookie! Especially Now that the Gloves are off! Im Sure Eric WONT forget that Bill tried to destroy him! There can Only be 1 Alpha Male in a pack! Alcide’s struggle with his pack and the Were Politics were something he knew ..too well,perhaps?

I feel a Showdown or Big Fight is Inevitable bewteen Eric and Bill for Sookie! They BOTH want her…for Different reasons!

Wouldnt it be Something if they were fighting over her and she got involved and accidentally staked 1 of them??
That would be 1 Way to resolve the conflict!

Antonio

I was just speculating is all. IF sookie were to have a “normal” life …ie Husband,Children,In-Laws. She would Have to Leave not Only LA but the Continent,I think. According to the so-called Great Revelation, Vampires are free to live and congregate Anywhere in the world? I mentioned China because Sookie would be Away from QSA. Away from her selfishness and her desire to utilize her for her abilities. Sookie went to Dallas in Season 2 Godric was the Sheriff,There. I wonder if Sookie promised fealty or Loyalty to Godric and the Dallas contingent,Then QSA would No longer have an active hold over her.

For example, As of Last season Eric despises QSA..Cant blame him!
If she were to align herself with Eric Then Sophie Ann would have to back off! She could always say “I Belong to Eric Northman!” I doubt that QSA could force Eric to turn her over to her given that Eric Cant stand her!
I just thought of something…IF Sookie became the property of Eric,Then Bill wouldnt be able to use her or date her Anymore!
“Back Off,Compton! Shes Mine!” Wow! Think of That!
Then she could have BOTH QSA AND Bill Compton OUT of Her Life!
However, We she to give herself to Eric..Just to spite Bill, She would become Eric’s personal property…His Slave. He could Use her “gifts” Anytime he wanted,and She would have to Give Him Anything he wanted ..even sex or blood! So That wouldnt be in her best interest either!
I think that Both The Queen and Eric would utilize Sookie for her “abilities” and want to aquire her!
Bill,on the Other hand would Not use Sookie for his own political gain.

I suppose,at This point,It would be very difficult for Sookie to have a “normal” life. She is part Supe herself now and many other supes are aware of this.

mich

I dont think i was aloud to put an email on here for the True Blood Iron on’s, so just loook in ebay under transfers true blood or stickers, the lady that is the cheapest and best is castralian.

jaxx

Lizzie, with at least 3 books to go, I’m guessing CH will break up Eric and Sookie before this series is over. That’s why I’m not counting my chickens before they hatch. Sookie could end up with anyone or be alone. Only CH knows the ending to this series.

Sheila

I have been trying to open a shop on Ebay, and I go on there for everything under the sun, I don’t know why I didn’t consider that first. Cause I am a true junkie. Thanks.

mich

OMG DONT BUY A HOODIE>> go to ebay and type in true blood transfers and true blood stickers, i have a seller on there that sells iron on’s for like $3 !!!!! buy a $7 hoodie and do it your self! i have em on my jeans and sweat pants too!! and even my purse

Sheila

My birthday is actually SuperBowl Sunday this year, I am buying byself a True Blood Hoodie I think as a present. At least I am glad to know I am not the only one with a True Blood Addiction!

mich

Hey Sheila, Yeah I know Erics not going anywhere, i was just commenting on the other post about him being staked. Like Caitlin said, Eric IS true blood in a sense and the fan base would drop so i’m not worried about it at all. Remember, i work nights w no sleep all week and no coffee with my first post so it tends to be a little over dramatic lol. If Eric DOES become king, i dont know if that’d be good or bad (IMO) considering he’s love of power. I need to start reading more in between school work so i can catch up w all you guys are talking about i’d have a better understanding of why some say and comment on what they do… i’m such an outsider here not knowing as much as everyone else. although i DO NOT own a piece of clothing without the true blood logo on it, including my scarf and a pair of undies and my whole back window of my minivan is covered in True Blood stickers and decals lol.

~ Caitlin

Hi jaxx and lizzie,

******SPOILER******

Lizzie you do make a good point that CH broke Bill/Sookie up so it could happen with Eric/Sookie and I do think they will break up at some point (maybe for good but maybe not). Anything is possible. Like I said maybe it is just wishful thinking on my part. If Eric does become king I don’t know if a relationship with Sookie could work. I think the king and queens underlings do more of the work though.

Jaxx I didn’t think of Barry. We haven’t heard about him in a while. That is very possible that the queen could use him. Maybe she found another telepath besides Barry. I’m sure there has to be more telepaths out there. What if this new queen has some abilities? Couldn’t QSA communitcate mentally with the vamps she made?

I really do like Remy. He is the least complicated of the men. Also, he is human but can deal with the telepathy because of Hunter. He does like Sookie but she scares him a bit. However, like I said that scenerio would work out to nicely. Sookie can’t really have a normal life. She is past the point of going back and never was normal. Honestly, I don’t think Remy could deal with all that drama. Hunter would be in to much danger with Sookie. IDK. We’ll have to see when the book comes out.

~ Caitlin

Hi Mich,

Eric is such a big part of the story that he will not be going anywhere any time soon. Plus there would be a lot of backlash from fans if Eric were to get killed of soon in the TV series. As far as the end of the TV series goes who knows what will happen. In the end, none of the characters are safe. It is possible that Eric could die. I think he might become king by the end of the show. Right now, I do not think Eric really desire that title.

As far as the books go, I remember reading something where CH said that Eric and Sookie will not die at the end of the series. That is reasuring if anything I think Eric could become king.

Sheila

Hey Mich, calm down. First, It’s kinda already a given, Eric isn’t gonna leave just yet, the fans love hime too much, IMO second, He is a viking and a vamp that means trouble is kinda in his blood and if there is a way to avoid it, he might, but the viking in him says bring on the battle and the glory. But that being said, Do you remember last season, how Nan Flanigan and the AVL gave Eric the unofficial authority to take out Russel (Quietly) and they would act like everything was on the under, and would deny anything if someone brought it to their attention? (For Eric’s family, or whatever reason, but Russel was a pain in the %%% and they seemed to want him out of the way at this point. Well, I tend to think that if Eric doesn’t do something about that fairly soon he will have bigger problems than his feelings for Sookie, and he won’t have the chance to explore them. So calm down, we’re due to see some action in that department I think, before the possible demise of Eric Northman, besides I think the ratings would drop drastically without him there to continue his banter with the Sookie/Bill/Eric/Alcide deal. JMHO

mich

First of all, if eric get’s staked, i’m gone lol, second bill would def. be put to death, thirdly, Eric IS true blood at this boint and at most points in the books..(as far as i’ve read anyways) without eric, i hate to say it, i’m no sure i’d stick around. as far as Sookie being ALONE?? YEAH RIGHT!!! she needs all the man and drama she can find, she CANT be alone, as independant as she SEEMS to be, she NEEDS to be needed or she feels like nothing but a freak. She’s a spoiled brat that gets everyone she wants and yes, i’m stomping my foot like a 3 yr old turning green all over!!! SOOOO mad that she has all these amazing men grabbing at her ankles, and she just kicks em away till she needs em again. Sam is too “normal” and drama free for sookie… they’ll be friends forever. he’s awsome but too good boy for her. Bill already bores her, more like a dad then a lover, and ERIC??? well hmmmmm, the visual i get after book 4 yum yum. anyhoo sorry, as for quinn and all the others you guys are talking about (And thankks soooo much for givn me a heads up with the spoilers, i seem to be the only one that hasn’t gotten thru them all, you guys rock) I dont know, all i know is what i feel, see, and no in my heart and that is sookie with Eric, although i’d fight her for him lol. get my ass kicked, but i’d try like hell. Did i mention yummmmmm??? sorry about the spelling, gotta get me coffee and i’ll be back and more apt to use SCheck. high five Elise for that post lol…. and invisioning sook not ending up with a vamp? after having V, that will never happen, she will be with a Vamp in the end, willing to put money on it, ok, not money but a milky way or something.

Elise

Wow, Sookie won’t be too happy about Eric getting staked, and neither would I… Plus, didn’t they say that some countries, especially those in the Middle East, were not accepting vampires and were staking/killing them? Which could help her to survive in the Middle East, except, honestly guys, I’d rather be a slave to QSA for the rest of my life then live in Saudi Arabia for a month. Seriously, covered head to toe, not allowed to vote, not allowed to drive, not allowed to walk the street without a male relative – QSA is a vacation compared to that! And you can’t just go into China, its a communist country! They will need lots of info as to whey/where/who are you. Although, this conversation is probably moot because she will probably not have the chance to leave Louisiana.

Antonio

What if Bill staked Eric, Helped to Fake Sookie’s “death” and then send her off to China Or Pakistan? She would be out of QSA’s Jurisdiction and Ultimately out of her reach! If her death were “faked” then QSA would Never know!
Isis Maybe right though, There may very well be a Vampire hierarchy even in China! She would be away from QSA But Im sure that a Chinese Vampire(s) would seek to aquire her!

Elise

Anyone think that Sookie will end up alone, a strong powerful independent woman, who will leave Bon Temps and make her own life as she sees fit, without the need to be with anyone? I am pretty sure a psychologist will have a field day with her and every man that is after her, starting with Bill and ending with Sam. Lol.

Elise

She may laugh in the end of book 3, but in the beginning of book 4 she doesn’t want to have anything to do with either of them, not until Eric stumbles in front of her naked in the dark. I realize its different, but it will still allow him to continue with the basic plot of book 4, so we end up full circle back in the books.

jaxx

Yep, Lizzie, I agree. I don’t think Sookie will end up with either vamp. It’ll probably be Sam, someone else or no one at all. I guess we’ll have to just wait 3 more books to find out. 😉

jaxx

Hi Lizzie, then this year should be really interesting. 4 men vying for her attention at once. What a year this will be. LOL.

jaxx

Caitlin, I hope we get minisodes. That made the wait a little less stressful. LOL.

**SPOILERS**

I wonder if the new queen will have Barry the Bellboy as her telepath and not need Sookie’s abilities. Barry had to go somewhere after Rhodes. CH likes to recycle her characters and bring them in every couple of books.

I wondered about Sookie and Remy as well. He’s human though, as far as we know for now. Anything’s a possibility.

lizzie1701

Yes, Caitlin, CH has vested a lot into the Sookie/Eric relationship, but she also did that to Bill and Sookie’s relationship, and look what happened there! Just saying, you never, never know what the writer will do.

lizzie1701

Yes, Elise, AB does kind of follow the books and S3 ended with Sookie throwing out both Bill and Eric, but in the book, Sookie closes the door and laughs but in the TV series, it is much more serious. There is a difference.

~ Caitlin

Hi Isis,

I was a fan of Lost and I think the guy who has been cast as Claude did a good job. He was only in a few scenes though. I do not know how he will do as Claude but I am optimistic. I guess we will have to wait and see. I’m excited about Fiona Shaw playing Marnie. They do a wonderful job with casting on this show.

lizzie1701

Jaxx, at one of those little interviews by Steve and Anna at a event late last year, Stephen said, in response to how he felt about the new triangle with Sookie, Alcide and Eric, said it would be more like a “Quadrangle”. So, Bill is not discounted yet!

~ Caitlin

Hi jaxx and Elise,

*****SPOILER*******

Jaxx you made a really good point now I’m doubting everything again. Yes, it is possible the queen will want to marry Eric. I hope that does not happen I would hate that so much. Elise you made a good point about the vamp marrige. I really do not remember what the guideline are for one. Also, how does a vamp/human marriage work. The ceremony used was one for vampires. Would their marriage even be legal in the vampire world? The marriage is beneficial and detrimental to Sookie and Eric. Jaxx I do remember reading that Sookies abilities will not matter to the new queen. I wonder why? I still choose to hold out hope for those two. Elise, I do not want Eric to die though if Sookie leaves him. Maybe he will leave her. He still has Pam to think about.

I also thought that Sookie would help raise Hunter and in the back of my mind I wondered if her and Remy would end up together. Remy was a little creep out by her though. That is still a possibility. I like Remy but I do not want Sookie and him together. That scenerio would be kind of the white picket fence. I go back and forth on the issue. Sometimes I do think she will and up with Eric. Maybe that is just wishful thinking. CH has invested so much time in building their relationship though. I do not believe Sookie will just stop loving him just like that. Jaxx we both agreed before that they will break up even if only for a little while. I will not be surprised. Maybe CH will put some more of the chapter up online.

This is random but I wonder if they will have minisodes for this season of TB like they did last year?

jaxx

Yes Caitlin, I agree. I think Sookie will love Eric even w/o the bond in place. We just need it to be broken to allow this revelation to happen for Sookie. He is still the one I’m rooting for in the end.

***SPOILERS****

I, myself, don’t think Sookie will have children of her own. I think she will end up raising Hunter as her own.

The only way I can see Eric/Sookie getting a vamp divorce is if the new queen who we will meet in the next book, wants to marry Eric for territory reasons. I don’t know if a vamp can have a “human” wife and a “vamp” wife. Don’t forget, a LOT of emphasis was made on territories from Eric to Sookie and Eric stressed the importance of what he was saying even though our good old Sookums was bored with what he was saying. I think this is going to figure into DR somehow.

Elise

I agree with Isis and Jaxx. If Bill helps her outright without managing the situation from a political point, he will get himself killed for disobeying the queen, and Sookie will still be found anyway. Both Eric and Bill drank from her, they could be persuaded, perhaps through torture, to located her through the blood. She could negotiate with QSA herself. I think there is a danger in appearing weak to QSA, she may be able to speak to her and negotiate lucrative terms that will also grant her some sort of protection, but in the end, she will lose. Its not as if QSA is this cheerful happy polite lady, she is a vampire queen which means she is very dangerous, ruthless, and inhuman. I gather fielty is big with vampires, and eventually QSA will want that from Sookie. But short-term, she will probably do best by negotiating terms with the most powerful party.

Elise

Caitlin, from your mouth to the writer’s ears. I am a huge Eric fan, if you’re read any of my previous posts. I have been frustrating Bill’s fans to no end, I’m sure. 🙂 Since Bill did get a fairytale ending in “Dead in the Family” I don’t see how she can end up with him – he is finally happy without her. All fairy jokes aside, I hope she will end up with Eric, that is my fairy tale. I know that the vampire marriage can be easily dealt with, after all, according to their law they only have to see each other – I forgot – once every six months? So it doesn’t sound like an obstacle for her to overcome if she wants to leave him. God, this is depressing to think about… I suppose Sam is to me the worst option, so I am going to accept that it can happen, that way I can’t possibly be more disappointed. I think I’d prefer to have Eric die to them breaking up, probably because it would upset me if I would actually see Sookie make the decision to leave him.

~ Caitlin

Hi everyone,

******Spoilers*****

Jaxx I agree with you about Alcide and Sookie being “ships passing in the night”. They did have potential but it never seemed to work out for them. Yes, they could have been good together. We both agree and had this convo before about Alcide in Dead in the Family. I do hope they reedem him though.

Honestly, I think that ship has sailed with Quinn. Elise is right Quinn was the rebound guy. Although, Sookie was fond of Quinn she never loved him. Yes, I do agree again Elise that Sookie was making some excuses when she broke up with Quinn. I think the real reason was because she was still hooked on Eric. I was never a big Quinn fan. He was a nice guy and I felt bad for him but he was not right for Sookie. She could never come first with him. She was harsh to him though. The situation was not his fault. His mother and sister are crazy. Sookie had enough stress of her own to deal with. I think there are more cons than pros to being with Quinn. His mother is a loose cannon. After all he is indebted to the vampires so that does not exactly help Sookies cause. He would not be able to protect her. Sookie even admitted that Quinn was a mistake.

It is possible she could end up with Sam. I have mentioned before that I think that would be too predictable though. I see them as more of friends. I think Sam deserves better than to be treated as what 5th best in Sookies line of suitors.

One of the reasons I really like Trey was because he was not interested in Sookie.

Elise, I still think it is possible that Sookie could end up with Eric. The books series only takes place over a two year time span at most. She could end up with him at the end. They will not be together forever but they could be together for a while. She does love Eric. Even when the bond is broken I think she will still love him. The bonds not all that bad. It has had some benefits. They cannot really lie to each other because they can sense it through the bond. Who knows maybe she could live a little longer with the fae blood.

CH mentioned that Sookie will not have some fairy tale ending with the white picket fence. Even if she does not end up with a vamp she is still a telepath and immersed in the supe world. Most likely, she will always be in some danger. I really do not see her having children. She can hardly get through a day or week without getting fatally wounded. She almost needs a vamp around to give her blood to save her life. Even if Eric and Sookie end up together it will not be some fairy tale life. I think it would be interesting if they did stay together. I am pretty sure CH mentioned that Sookie and Eric will not die by the end of the series so that is a plus.

Maybe it would be better if they break up sooner than later because it will only get more difficult.

*******SPOILER FROM BOOK Mich I do not want to spoiler something from one of the later books************

Remember they are married (even if Sookie does not aknowledge it) so it is not as easy as just breaking up and calling it quits. It seemed relatively simple to get into the marriage. I do not know the logistics of vampire marriges. I am pretty sure that it will not be as simple to get out of a vampire marriage. I could be wrong tough. As far as a vamp/human marriage who knows? Sookie is really close to Pam too.

Who knows maybe Sookie will end up with Bill at the end of the books, I doubt it but you never know? I do think that Bill has reemdemd himself as far as the books go. That does not mean I want them to be together because I like Eric.

P.S. Sorry to talk about the books I know we are not supposed to but sometimes it seeps into the discussions.

Isis Nocturne

Antonio, Bill can’t send Sookie away. There’s no distance she can go where some supe in power or other can’t find her. And we’ve only seen QSA in limited doses. We have no idea of how many allies she may have out of the USA. Theoretically, someone else close to QSA could find Sookie if she went elsewhere and would use her powers for themselves or hand her over to another vamp in charge. It seems like Sookie’s in a lose-lose situation regardless of where she is now that vampires and other supes know about her abilities.

jaxx

Antonio, I don’t think Sookie can ever just go back. She is a supe hybrid herself now. She will have to figure out how to “fit in” so to speak with the rest of the supes and what part she will play in the supe world. She is in it now for the long haul. And, yes, it will be interesting to see how AB plays out S4. It should be Eric/Sookie/Alcide in the triangle this season. I guess we will have to wait and see if AB has Eric or Sookie with amnesia. Should be Eric but he likes to fool us. I liked the witch war myself. AB has a lot to cover this year.

Antonio

I think that Quinn is 1 of the Coolest “Supes” in the book series!
The books are filled with All kinds of supes..that’s true.
Quinn is a Weretiger! He shifts into this massive,hulking tiger!
At first, He seems like a bully and some1 you might not want to tangle with. Then he shows a genuine interest in Sookie..Which I might add, Was NOT based on Her ability as a Telepath OR he sweet Fae Blood! Bill and Eric Used her to suit Their needs!
As I am given to understand the role of John Quinn has Not Yet been cast for True Blood. Vin Diesel, I think is an action Movie actor. He’d probably want a boatload of $$ to do this role!
Anyway, I think Quinn is an Awesome character!

Sookie has Quite a dilemma here. Either she remains in HER world of humans and long work shifts and hearing peoples thoughts..Not to mention Many thought she was Weird or Strange. ( She’d probably never fit in there,anyway)
OR
She remains in the Supe world of Vampires,Werewolves,Shapeshifters and continues to place her life in danger,Knowing that she is an outsider and may Not be welcome. Here’s 1 solution…..Apparently, QSA wants Sookie,She wants to utilize her for her unique abilities.
IF Bill Really cared for her, He would send her away…Many miles so that the Queen would Never get her hands on Her!

Antonio

AB and the writers have refered to S4 as season of the witch.
No Doubt,Season 4 will be interesting and exciting to watch.
However, In book 4, The witches were,at best, A subplot. Eric figured in mostly. He had amnesia,was cutoff from his buissness and the “life” he thought he knew,his involvement and steamy relationship with Sookie.Not to mention Her growing attraction for Alcide. Their was a witch war and it will be interesting to see just how AB will write this out. There was So much going on in book 4! I hope we do not get another Season 2 thing…Where too much of the story was written for Maryann and Not enough written for Godric,Sookie and her growing attraction for Eric
Nor for Bill and Sookie either…or Lorena.
Season Should be Season of Eric + Sookie OR Alcide + Sookie!
These were More prominent storylines in the book!
I look forward to see what will happen in S4.
1 other thing, Claudine,Claude and the Fae are different in the book then in the show,too!

mich

Misunderstanding is the story of my life! Dah, obviously he wouldn’t do it, sorry i didnt’ read right. never claimed to be smart, just cute:0) can that be my pass for the day? 2nd night no sleep and been studying all day so an integer and Vin diesel are 2 in the same at this point sorry guys.

jaxx

mich, I think you misunderstood what I said. Some of the fans want Vin Diesel, that doesn’t mean TB will actually get Vin Diesel to play Quinn. I imagine he’d want too much $$. They’ll probably cast a lesser known actor, but you never know.

Isis Nocturne

Quinn hasn’t been cast yet, Mich. 🙂

mich

So i was REALLY right???? It’s gonna be vin diesel? OMG talk about head exploding?!!! I dont know if i’d WANT to be sookie with her choices… Bill, Eric, Quinn, Alcide, Sam, omg, i cant stand it!! I cant believe i even stumbled on Vin diesel, what are the chances? Good idea to google the name lol….. Once my husband finds out, it’s hard enough for him to deal with my obsession w Eric, wait till hears this!! Let’s hope it holds true

Sheila

Can I say WOW? That would seriously be beyond cool. Talk about bedtime stories to go to sleep by,,, So many awesome choices. What is a girl to do? Poor Sookie ( I think both Bill and Eric would have to start stressin)

Isis Nocturne

Jaxx, you’re right. 🙂 There was a casting call for Claude, and he has been cast. (I’m just miffed that an actor I thought perfect for the role wasn’t able to audition, because I think he would have been a much better fit for Claude than the guy they cast.)

jaxx

Yep. That’s pretty much who CH invisioned when she made up Quinn. I think I also remember he was olive skinned as well. What a major score it would be if they could get Vin Diesel to actually play Quinn. OMG, there is so much eye candy in this series that my head’s going to explode. LOL. 😉

Sheila

Vin Diesel? True Blood? How could this possibly get any hotter of a show? OMG, if that were to really happen, That would be awesome. I am not sure what is hotter on that man, the voice or the bod. Thank Goodness, my honey knows without a doubt I love him.

jaxx

Elise, you are right as usual. I haven’t read that book in a long time and forgot about the all of that until you just refreshed my memory. I remember Sookie was waiting to hear from Quinn for a long time, hoping and praying he was ok after Rhodes and never heard from him. So, yes on a couple of different levels, she felt betrayed by him and then did not welcome him warmly back. Quinn and Sookie had their moment, but he is not the one for her, imo, but he will be back for more.

I wonder when we’ll meet Quinn in TB. Too much going on with the witches and wars this season but you never know, they could introduce Quinn at the end of S4. I’d so love to see who they cast for him. Let’s have all the love interests out on the table and may the best supe win!!!!!

mich

Jaxx.. I kid you not!! i googled “Quinn from true blood” and go see what comes up. they show the charector to play quinn and it’s vin diesel lol…. i am almost 40 and do remember mr clean, i wish i didnt lol. wierd that vin showed up. tell me what you think

Elise

You know what really bothered me about her and Quinn? They never saw each other, even before Rhodes. It was a long distance relationship, she spent more time waiting for him to come into town then be with him. Then he disappeared after Rhodes and the first time she sees him he is as one of the people who’ve come to kill her and her friends.

I think the whole family was just an excuse, I think she felt betrayed over that, even though he had little choice as his mother was involved. She probably knew she had no right to feel betrayed over that, but I remember her hinting at his betrayal later on in the books. I can understand her not opening that can of worms with him: “You betrayed me” “It was my mother” “I still feel betrayed, you led them to kill me and people closest to me” “I had no choice” – this was an easier conversation to have.

Honestly, if Eric had the same situation as Quinn with his family, would she have reacted like that? She complained in Dead in the Family how Eric is always busy, how he is always working, how his position leaves her alone waiting for him all the time, but she stays. The thing is, I think if in Dead in the Family someone was holding Pam hostage and asked him to go and kill Sookie, I doubt he would. He’d manipulate the situation by using her maybe, but he’d never allow anyone to hurt her. Its kind of what Quinn did though.

jaxx

Elise, I agree. Quinn is a really nice guy who fell for Sookie hook, line and sinker. He, unfortunately, was a rebound guy. You hit the nail on the head. He had family issues and Sookie HAS to be the center of attention and she wasn’t about to share Quinn with anyone, not even family. He was sweet to her and good for her and nearly got killed for her (who hasn’t), but she treated him unfairly and badly b/c she was pinning for the kinder, gentler, loving “amnesia Eric”. Even when Quinn reappeared several books later, Sookie treated him badly. While he’s not my favorite, I did have a pain of sympathy for him and his situation. I think he is scheduled to reappear in either DR or one of the next books before the series ends.

Elise

This is just the impression that I got, but I felt that Quinn was her rebound guy. She was a bit sick of the whole Eric/Bill thing, she was getting over both of them, she was hurting over Bill, she was hurting over her loss of Eric, she was missing him but was resolved not to be with him even though she felt his pull, she was lonely and horny and ready to date someone she would consider uncomplicated (Eric is definitely complicated.) She liked Quinn, she was attracted to him, she enjoyed him, but she seemed to have more intimacy with Eric, even before the bond. Even when they were fighting, it was sexy, it was like he was chasing her and she was playing hard to get, subconsciously. Honestly, she had way too much hostility for Eric to not care, I think she was repressing.

jaxx

LOL, mich, no, I’m sorry, I meant for you to goggle “Mr. Clean”. He is a character on a cleaning products bottle. The cartoon image reminds me of what I picture Quinn to look like. Quinn is described as a tall, built, handsome, bald young guy with violet eyes. For some reason, Mr. Clean’s image popped in my head. I’m a little older than you so you might not remember the TV ads. Some have suggested Vin Diesel to play Quinn’s character in TB. That’s probably why he came up when you goggled Quinn. Quinn is his last name. If I remember correctly, his first name is John. Try “Mr. Clean” and let me know what you think.

mich

Ok, I googled Quinn and they are showing me Vin diesel… so non of you know that Vin diesel is like the hottest actor in america or i am looking at the wrong thing!!! If it is HIM, how could anyone leave this out??? your killin me!!!!

Sheila

Hello my fellow Trubie’s it is way too early in the morning, and I should have coffee hooked up to an I.V. drip, but here goes. Although I like Sam, he truly is a sweet guy, I don’t see it. The Eric and Bill plan would be a problem because they would always try to best each other and always and forever leave the potential that they want her for the wrong reasons. In the back of her mind, that would always be a thought. However, I don’t think age would really be an issue because her Fae blood keeps her young longer I believe. But unless Alcide steps up his A game, Quinn may be the man of the hour, we all know the show doesn’t follow the books, she would still have her adreniline fix a guy she can hang around in the daylight with, have some sort of a normal family life if you can call it that, and they would love her for her, not her blood. All things important to her. We will see what AB has in mind. Either way, it’s all good. I have said it before, I will say it again. May the best Supe win. Whomever that shall be, Eric, Bill, Alcide, Quinn, Sam, ?????Or who knows yet.

jaxx

Elise, I agree. 🙂 I will have to reread DITF again. I thought it was a bizarre book but it was definitely one you needed to pay great attention to. Eric was trying to tell Sookie about territories for a reason. I’ll have to go back and reread this one before DR comes out in May.

I think I read there was a casting call for Claude this year. I’m so glad we get to meet him. Wonder if we’ll meet Niall as well and the others. Maybe AB will save that for next season since this is the Season of the Witch.

jaxx

It will be sad when Jessica and Hoyt break up. In the books, Hoyt ends up with Holly, but I don’t see that happening here since Holly is about twice his age now. AB must have something else in store for Hoyt, unless Jessica turns Hoyt.

To me, S1 followed book 1 almost verbatim. S2 followed the core story but very much deviated from LDID. Too much Maryanne, but we’ve covered that already. S3 did a good job of following Club Dead and did end basically the same way, Sookie rescinding both vamp’s invitations. So, I’m guessing S4 will for the most part follow DTTW, although who has amnesia has been a hot topic of discussion. Some think Sookie, some think Eric. Eric is the one in DTTW. Either way, I think it will be interesting. I think Sookie having amnesia would have more of an impact on the storyline since she is involved with every character in TB but Eric’s story would be a good one to explore too and we would get to know Eric in a different way. It depends on how AB interprets DTTW. IDK, it will be interesting to see how this season plays out.

Elise

Lol, you guys, it takes a lot to shock and surprise me, I mean, my boyfriend and I watch horror movies and we were both laughing at the Human Centipede, but when I read that, I had to re-read the passage. The best part was Claude’s reaction. I was on the floor! “What else is he suppose to write on? Its been processed…” Like what’s the big deal? It was like a practical joke by the writer.

Its also kind of interesting how the last book ends. I’d like to be inside Eric’s mind when he wakes up in the evening and finds two male fairies sleeping with Sookie in one bed. I hope they live. That book was like a Twilight Zone. I don’t know how anyone could have a normal life after what she’s become.

I love Claude. I’d rather she ends up with Claude then Sam. At least Claude has a sense of humor, or rather inspires it. They can make beautiful paper together!

jaxx

Loleaf, you know, I was so upset with what happened to Claudine at the time. Then I started to think about it too and I believe you may be right. We haven’t touched on angels yet and Claudine was striving to be an angel. What better way to achieve that then protect Sookie the way she did (I don’t want to spoil for others who haven’t read). Plus, she may have an “added helper” with her this time.

Quinn does love her and would do anything for her, he just wasn’t my cup of tea.

Wow, 5 males vying for her affection. I guess it pays to be fae. LOL.

Elise, I totally agree. I want Sookie and Eric to end up together, that is my pick, but I still think it will be Sam. Just seems that’s where CH is going with this, BUT…I’ve been fooled before and AB likes to put twists on everything.

Eric turning human….possibly. Maybe Niall or the fae or a witches spell could turn Eric human for Sookie, interesting theory. Yeah, I don’t think Sookie with a fairy would work. After I read the whole “skin paper” thing, it gave me the creeps. LOL.

jaxx

Mich, Quinn, to me, would look like Mr. Clean. Google the name if it doesn’t ring a bell. Keep reading, he appears at the end of book 5.

Elise

I so hope you are right, but I just don’t see him changing the ending from the writer’s intent. She could raise hell over that, and the argument could be that it kills the intent of the story itself. I notice that he may have changed many plot points, and even introduced new story lines, but the main course that the main characters themselves are following is still the same. In the end of S3, just like in the end of book 3, Bill and Sookie break up, she throws BOTH of them out. Maybe pressure from the fans will make him change it? Then again, she broke up with Bill and so many fans loved him. You know, it could be Hoyt. He is a very nice guy and I read that Jessica and Hoyt will break up in the next season, which is actually pretty sad because they were so sweet together. I loved how he followed her to Texas in S2.

Elise

Damn, I loved “Dead in the Family…” I loved everything about it – how she fitted so well with them, how she was treated by both Eric and Pam, who she was when she was with them… I just know it, she will probably say that she doesn’t like it as much as I do and she wants a human life, which is probably the reason for the writer saying that she will not become a vampire and that she will live a natural human lifespan. I understand the whole “nothing is better then being human, we need to appreciate our human existence as the best of all possible worlds” point but really, how prosaic! And not an entirely original statement, as its been restated ad nauseam by a volume of period literature, anywhere from Victor Hugo to Mark Twain. If its so great to be human, why do humans have a suicide rate? Or enjoy fiction? Or fantasize being vampires (or werewolves, etc.)?

Sorry, this is me being frustrated because I can see the writing on the wall, so to speak… Lol, this is like therapy, so thank you for listening… Yup, Sam is great. Nice guys can be fun too. Normalcy. Bon Temps. Small town. Normal lifespan. Picket fences. Waitressing. Nothing beats that. Yup… 🙁

There is still a small flicker of hope in my mind that Eric will turn human, but I know its a pipe dream. You know, there is one type of supe she never dated, a fairy! That could be cool. Of course, they make paper out of skin, so I’m not sure that they are better then the vampires. 🙂

mich

Hi Loleaf, This isn’t going with the books… although sometimes, and some scenes I WISH, we cant go by that at all!! AB will not follow the book so know one will no we can only assume

Loleaf

Hi guys!! I agree that even though we want her to end up with the vamp of our dreams. (Whether it be Bill or Eric) I don’t see it happening either… With Charlaine saying Sookie won’t become a vamp, or have vamp children(god forbid lol), she did say that Sookie would end up with a character from the earlier books in an interview one time. Now I can’t remember at what book she was on when she said that statement. Sam was in all so far where Alcide came in with the third, and Quinn in the fifth with a brief cameo. I do believe that Sookie will end up with someone who she can have children with, (even though they may be fuzzy telepaths lol.. hey that’s an idea for Charlaine’s new book series!!!) I myself fell in love with Quinn when I first read about him (even though I also love Eric & Sookies times together). Even though he ****spoiler**** was a bad-ass fighter I felt that he and Sookie were cut from the same cloth. Both protective of their families and would do anything for them, yet lost and looking for someone that they could love and would love them for who they are not what they can do. Sookie had a protector that wasn’t interested in using her telepathy in any way, and was completely honest with her in every way. I even loved when he called her “Babe”, to me it was a term of endearment, like Eric calling her “Lover”. Can’t wait to see where we go from here in both the show and the book format. Oh btw I don’t believe that Claudine is completely gone…I think that she will be back in a different form. Possibly an angel!!! But these are just my opinions.

mich

Hey Jaxx. i agree wayyy tooo early for this but hey, i live tb so here it goes, she has to try and read his thought tho too (sam) being a sup. I dont know who quinn is i haven’t gotten that far but i’m curious he’s brought up so much so back to the books. id he sup? as in shifter or what? whats he loook like? i need a mental view. I still think she will end up with eric. i feel it in my bones (as well as other places lol) sorry, totally inappropriate lolol. The wait is killing me, i cant wait to start the discussions with each episode!! I’m starting to dream of things,,,, not that i’m somplaining, but ultimatley lol, guess who eric ends up with lol. enough of this, i need my coffee to spell and sound rational. mornin to all

jaxx

Oops, I meant “her” telepathy. Too early in the morning for me. LOL

jaxx

Hi Antonio and Sheila 🙂 While I am all about Eric, I, too, just can’t see Sookie ending up wither Eric or Bill at the very end unless she is turned. That topic is also going to come up in the next book as well. There is only so long she can be with a vamp without being turned. While I like Alcide and he is very prominent even in the last book too, they are like ships passing in the night. They have a mutual attraction for each other but something always gets in their way (in the books). Book Alcide also turns into what he feared the most. I didn’t like Alcide very much in the last book. Who knows what will happen on TB with Alcide and Sookie though and if AB goes that route, I will be happy to see where their relationship goes, if Debbie doesn’t interfere. I’m not a big Quinn fan, but he does love her and has enough love for both of them, but Sookie treats him very badly, so I just don’t see that one happening unless something changes. Sam just seems like the logical end result. He was there for her before any vamp showed up and loved her for her without ever knowing about the “fae” thing and knew about his telepathy and accepted her and loved her for it. Only drawback is she can read his thoughts and she has to go to extreme lengths to block Sam out, which is exhausting to her. I think she is attracted to theh vamps for that exact reason. She can relax her guard. It will be interesting to see what does happen in the end, both books and TV series. My bet is Sam, but you just never know. 🙂

Antonio

I think Youre right! The thing is…it just doesnt make much sense! At SOME point the subject of her “conversion” will come up if she continues to hang around the Vampire sect! If she Chooses to be with Either Bill OR Eric then she may have to deal with the idea of being turned! If Bill did it then He would be Her maker…If Eric,Then He would Be her maker!
Alcide would never attack her or try to make Her what he is!
Nor would Quinn OR Sam!
At THIS point Sookie should start wearing bulbs of Garlic around her neck~~~just to keep them Vamps away from her!
OR she could start wearing raw silver around her neck
“If ANY of You Supes come near Me,You’ll get a face full of silver!” There Problem solved! Would silver affect Sam?

Antonio

By The Way, It would be Really Cool if we could see Alcide Shift into his Wolf form This year! Alcide was written as more of a Rogue wolf or Renegade. He was the “good’ wolf in the pack of so-called “bad” ones. Cooter’s pack was bad..Alcide wanted Nothing to do with them. Hopefully,in S4,We will get to see him with his “good” pack? We will learn More about him,also. In the books,Alcide was also troubled about What he was.
Weres and Vamps Hate each other! It would be Quite Interesting to see Alcide Face-Off against Bill OR Eric!

Question? Cooter and His wolves were high on V! They were pumped up on it! Yet,Bill managed to pick them off like Nothing?
In Many stories,Werewolves are As strong Sometimes Even Stronger than Vampires…ie Van Helsing,Underworld!
It just Doesnt make sense to me!!
How is it that Bill is strong enough to take out a pack of weres like a hyena on a wildebeast??
Weres,too are quite strong! It would have been interesting to see Cooter beat the snot out of Bill for a bit and then have Bill come back at him! Funny, How V-Fueled Weres come to Sookies home and yet ONLY Russell is a threat to Bill and Jessica?
Why were Coot and his pack made to look so weak??
Shouldnt the V have made them Stronger??

By the way, Why didnt Jessica seem to care that Bill took her human life and her family? Simply Put Bill is Not Evil …Lorena IS…THAT is WHY Bill hated her!

Sheila

Hey Antonio, I do agree with you. I admit I am team Eric at the moment, but honestly, I do think that being with Alcide or even Quinn would be a nice chage of pace for Sookie, and give her the chance to have a guy around that may actually like her for her, and not what she can do. But, I do see one potential problem with that….. Our dear Sookie has in my opinion become an adreneline junkie and always ends up in the middle of the mess. IMO, Bill tried to keep her all to his self, while Eric, however twisted this was, let her have a life of sorts if you look at it. Yes, they did both use her, but I think secretly she likes her position because she gets away from reading all the thoughts at work, and gets to get out of her little box for a minute if that makes any sense. But I do think a change would do her good for a second, but I think she’s gonna be drawn back to Eric when it’s all said and done. JMHO>

Antonio

Sam always had her back…Was Always loyal,friendly,kind,reliable,smart and trustworthy.Everyone should have a friend like him! Sam cares for her and would do anything to help her,protect her and make her happy! In the books,Sam was more concerned about her welfare then in the show.
Watching Sookie “break-up” with Bill was difficult(I suspected it Would be). Honestly, I think Sookie should give it a rest with the Vamps for a while! Alcide? Well,There is potential there,too with him. There are ONLY 2 guys that are Not drawn to her..either for her sweet Fae blood Or her Abilities as a Telepath…and they are Sam and Quinn!
Both Bill AND Eric are Vampires..No Way around That fact!
They Both have used her,Bill for her blood and Eric for her abilities! Alcide,Although a nice,solid,Hard-Working guy, Has Quite a Temper! He can be a Hothead! And Man,Can he hold a grudge!
I think I would be glad for Sooks If she Chose Sam or Even Quinn!
Think about it! Sam loves her for HER! Quinn Loves Her for HER!

mich

Yeah, we stick to the show on this site ( I made the same mistake as a newbe on here, not sure how much longer i’m a “newbe, can i graduate soon guys?? PLLEEASE?), if we didn’t then it would be soooo overwhelming. the books CANT explain anything considering the show is NOTHING like the books. I DO love the books, however, this is a totally different perspective. Glad to have ya aboard tho we love new input and debates, just need to stick to the show. Book debate is not in the same land as Alan Ball land (thank god or we wouldn’t have lafeyett!!

mich

god Melody!!! thanks for the foreplay!!!

Melody

Isis, there ya go, ya hit the nail on the head. That’s exactly why Bill hated Lorena. He wasn’t dying, he wanted to go home and she turned him. I should have remembered that..good for you! And yes, wasn’t Pam turned when she was raped and beaten? I think….something like that.
I would have been attracted to Bill that night in Merlotte’s also. Yum…when he was sitting in that booth, looking all bad and moody….yum, yum, yum…and the music! I love it….it’s haunting.
To me, IMHO, Sookie’s first glimpse of Bill was alot more sexy than her first glimpse of Eric in his chair that night at Fangtasia. He just looked like a boss (TO ME) and he looked bored and waiting for a challenge of some sort. Bill looked like he was ready to rock somebody’s socks off with a goooooood old fashioned romp ….yum. (slurp….sorry 😉 )

Isis Nocturne

About the vampires who love their makers, I think I can help with that, Melody. 🙂

As we saw in the show, Godric turned Eric when he was sick and dying. Eric’s only “alive” because of Godric. We don’t know the hows or whys of Eric turning Pam, but I’m going to guess that the story will be similar to how it was in Charlaine’s books. If that’s the case, then Eric will probably be getting Pam out of a horrible situation in her human life when he turns her. I guess the easiest way to boil down this argument is that Eric and Pam are both turned willingly. That wasn’t the case for Bill. He was a soldier who only wanted to go home to his wife, and Lorena didn’t give him a choice when she turned him. Lorena liked him and wanted to keep him. Bill has no say in anything that went on with his being turned. That’s why he hates Lorena. He hates himself for doing the same to Jessica, because he realized she was stuck in the same situation he’d been stuck in. She had no choice in being turned either, and all she wanted to do was go home to her human life. Unfortunately, both Bill and Jessica cannot go home anymore. It sucks, but that’s the way it is.

Isis Nocturne

Elise, having just watched the very first episode of True Blood again, I think I can say that Sookie noticed Bill even before she noticed the silence in her head. He comes in to Merlotte’s, Nathan Barr’s dark and sensual music gets louder, and Sookie and Bill’s eyes meet. They have their moment before Sookie whirls around to Sam and Tara and tells them “I think Merlotte’s just got it’s first vampire.” So, the way I see it, there’s an immediate attraction, which is compounded later that night when Sookie realizes that she can’t hear Bill’s thoughts.

Elise

OMG, if she ends up with Sam I’m seriously thinking of boycotting the show… LOL. After all of this?! It just kind of sounds like what Harris is trying to say, which I’m trying to ignore because I can’t stand it… Lol.

mich

So much to think about after reading Elise, Antonio and Melody… 3 SOOOO different replies yet all so inflicking. First off all of you bite your tongues (and i mean very hard) if sookie ends up with Sam I cant deal with that. Sam’s cool and all, but …. BOOOORRRRING!!! no way! Secondly, we need to keep in mind, comparing a “man” and personal experiances dont apply here. noone’s human and it is incomparable. Why Bill did not love his maker as did Eric and Pam do is a VERY good question, one i never thought to ask!! Turning even as a newbe, Bill would not have the knowledge of “hating” lorena for turning him, just like Bill turned Jessica… why doesn’t she hate Bill for taking HER family from her even tho at first she was happy about it, in the end she wanted to go home and Bill had to glamor her family to forget she was there!!? So that makes NOOO sence at all and your right, AB needs to go further into that cause it now irritates me. Secondly, or thirdly, wherever i’m at,, Why is it (as Melody pointed out” that Sook can just go off on anyone she wants and everyone is so passive about it? Bill or Eric has a melt down, or a HUMAN moment, and she holds a 2 week grudge? really? There is no way she can be with bill, Sook just needs someone that can stand up to her. (LMFAO SAM?? REALLY??) I think Eric is coming out of himself, and HE HIMSELF is just learning who he is, and sookie is bringing that out in him. Just like her, He does not like being told what to do and he needs a companion, not someone that NEEDS him, he needs to control, yet his desire to BE controlled turns him on. And sookie does that for him. She can tell him to GFYS and that is HIS forplay. I am very jealous that she even HAS the choice, it aggrivates me i guess in a sense because Bill is willing to lose everything, including himself, for her and she pretty much spits on his grave, and then Eric that is there when she blinks…. I dont nessissarily agree that her taking erics blood is the first attraction. I remember when they first walked into Fangtasia and she could not take her eyes off him, and it wasn’t because he was sitting there in the middle of the bar, there was an inmastakable attraction from that point. maybe not physical,, but SOMETHING. look at her face, she was intrigued from the minute she saw him, no blood. The blood brought the sextual desire and contection, but the origanal was the minute she met eyes with him that night and asked bill who he was. Pam was STANDING, more visable then eric sitting…. why didn’t she ask who pam was??? There’s where the attraction started. IMO

Elise

Oh, gosh, Melody, I hope you are wrong! I hope I haven’t compared myself to Sookie (because I am almost a complete opposite of her!) but I do believe that any creature, whatever species, will act in its own self-interest. At its basic level, every creature cherishes its existence. I understand that I’m searching for behavioral explanations here and I am only human, but isn’t that the basic scientific method? After all, human beings have studied other species in similar fashion. I may not know exactly what goes through their heads, but I can find a pattern to their decision making by observing their behavior. I suppose its not in the vampire’s self-interest to care about human beings. I imagine its pretty difficult to invest in a creature so fragile with such short life span, who is also a food source. I don’t think the quality of telling people whatever she feels like saying is a quality restricted to supernatural beings however – humans are guilty of that too. Yes, there is a line between strength and stupidity, but due to her age and inexperience in life and relationships, she may become more speculative in her responses. At least, she has in the books. Again, while she does have supernatural blood, that is also a quality that often appears in all of us. I am only saying that her behavior to me seems very human, despite her lineage.

As to Eric, I don’t think we know him at all, vampire or not. I’m only making guesses as to who he is based on his very contradictory actions (even Sookie admits that he has behaved both atrociously and repentantly and she is herself confused). I can only infer that as he was taking revenge for the deaths of his human Viking family, revenge that he swore to prior to being turned, that honor, valor, and loyalty were upheld by that society. They were according to historical accounts. Perhaps those are the qualities he carried with him into his next un-life? Perhaps its his attempt to hold on to his humanity? Just making intelligent (I hope) guesses.

Again, I can only assume, that, based on both Viking and early Southern US history, Eric is more likely to treat her as an equal because the Viking women had more rights in society at the time then women did in the south in 1900’s. We see evidence of this in how each man speaks to her, but perhaps there other things at play here we don’t know about. Perhaps its just a mask, and both have no feelings whatsoever? As you said, we just don’t know. However, we can look at the pattern of behavior and see a correlation.

I admit, I may compare Bill to a conglomerate of multitude of men in the world, who have been flawed but who loved. God, I am sick of them… I could publish 10 volumes of apologies from men, and so can every one of my girlfriends, but we all have learned that everyone has a pattern of behavior, and this rarely changes. Maybe its different for vampires? Maybe he will never keep anything from her again? Maybe he will change the person he has been for the past 170 years because of her? I don’t think its likely, but I am not an optimist and I don’t know about vampire nature. In this case, I am basing my judgement on personal experience. However, vampire or not, the alternative doesn’t seem likely to me, as behavior almost never changes, in any species. Maybe she will chose to accept his inadequacies? That I can’t answer.

Maybe Bill’s hatred of Lorena and Pam’s love for Eric shows that again, vampires are not bound by a compulsory behavior but have some choice in their attachment to their maker ? (which is not what happens in the novels) Could it be proof of normalcy, not something extraordinary? Or perhaps a testament to who Godrick, Eric, and Lorena are as people and vampires? However, I don’t think that having shreds of humanity is solely Bill’s privilege. I think that Eric’s quest for revenge is a part of his human nature as a Viking, and I think the way he is falling apart through season 3 shows that as well.

Melody

Good grief, if she ends up with Sam, I will be sorely disappointed.

Antonio and Mich, you put such depth into your posts, and you make me think. Elise, I think the one problem I have with your analysis is that you compare Sookie to you and Eric to men have known. The thing is, Sookie is not completely human ( I am assuming your are 😉 ) and Eric is a vampire. They cannot, by nature, think the way you do. Eric and Bill and any other vampire for that matter have been re-created without any real sense of compassion for others, any other sense of right or wrong, or if they do possess it, they don’t give it alot of concern. Vampires are all about vampires. Their wants, needs, desires come first always. It’s up to each one to decide how much of the human nature do they want to dredge up and unnaturally deal with inside themselves. Do they prefer to tell the truth to humans? Do they want to deal with emotions other than sex, feeding, existing.? It’s their choice I guess. Sookie is part Fae, so she doesn’t think entirely human either….who the heck knows what that makes her mind and heart capable of feeling….and to what extent? I don’t know if she can be called a tough chick, to me, she’s all mouth until she gets into real jams….but again, she is different in the books than she is in the series, and I get the two boggled together. I think she wants someone to love her, someone to be her equal, not treat her like a baby. I get that. But, also, she has always had high standards (via Gran) and unless AB changes Eric into something else, she just may decide to go “bad boy” because of her blood attraction to Eric now. And if I recall, she totally dist Eric and had no attraction to him at all until he tricked her into drinking his blood….Antonio, you are the fact man, is that right? Although none of that happened in the books, so again, I’m “duh”…..? In the books, when she was “with” Bill, she was with Bill…..no thoughts of Eric.
I think there is a very thin line between strenght and stupidity. You have to know when to take risks and when to open your mouth and when to back off and shut the mouth. Sookie is under the impression, by her own experience) that she can just yell at anyone, (Tara, Jason, Bill,Eric, Alcide,Quinn, Arlene, Sam…..) and they will all just overlook it and continue on with her when she cools down. Works for her I guess, but is it because she is also part Fae and EVERYONE is enamored by her? All supes?
I don’t know.
What I’ve found to be so ironic is that Eric LOVED Godrich, Pam LOVES Eric, and so on and so on, but Bill hated Lorena…..why? How did he continue to have any shred of humanity inside of himself? I think maybe they should delve deeper into why that is…..he is self-loathing…..he wanted Lorena dead….was Bill not entirely human himself before he was turned? Or is it simply that he himself, in comparison to the others, is somewhat still a baby vamp? Has not figured it out yet?
Just wondering out loud..

Elise

Mich, lol, I thought I was replying to you! You write very well, please don’t be self-conscious. You know, I tend to over-think and intellectualize things, but, honestly, I love what you just wrote and I completely agree with you! Lorena should have never turned Bill, she’s created a self-hating vampire, and Sookie and Eric are just more suited for each other. As I’m sure you can see from my posts, I prefer Eric for probably the same reason he is suited for Sookie. I understand there are lots of sweet and kind women who need a Bill in their lives, but I can’t be with men like that. This object has been set in motion by a powerful force, and will not stop until acted upon by an equal or greater force, you know? 🙂

Also, I don’t think that Sookie was attracted to Bill because he was her opposite, I thought she was attracted to him because he was the only one who gave her silence in her head? As opposed to constant chatter of thoughts?

Eric is just soooo smug. It makes me want to teach him a lesson. But I think Sookie is already doing that. 🙂 The most frustrating part of this entire story is that it seems inevitable that she will end up with Sam, which is so depressing. I suppose, to each his own.

Elise

Antonio, lol, as you probably read in my previous posts, I disagree… Yesterday, my 9 year old son, who is a pretty tough kid, already playing running back for a third year in his town’s football league, told me that I’m “inflexible and uncompromising…” My boyfriend immediately smiled and turned away – apparently there is a consensus… So, as my son could probably predict I would say to this, love is a poor excuse. For example, women live with abusive men for decades, who despite their actions, do love them – does that excuse it? Men, who kill their mates in a fit of irrational jealousy, but love them – does that excuse it? Excusing anyone’s behavior with love is not only a cop-out, its actually a bad testament to character, it means a man can’t deal with his own emotions, it means that this is how he treats whom he loves and how he expresses love. But I digress… I am sure that Bill loves her. I am even sure that she loves him back. The question is, is love enough? If you gave so much of yourself into a relationship that has so many obstacles, and have learned within a week that everything you have thought was true was a lie, even if you loved him, would you trust him again? Remember, he still didn’t tell her the truth for a while, yes, because he loved her. So, love doesn’t prevent him from lying, it just modifies his actions. I know, everyone talks about how the heart surpasses every obstacle and here I am, talking about logic and reason, and being very rational. I am a rare woman who finds passion in the meaning behind man’s actions. Words of love or promises of commitment mean very little to me. I have heard too many make promises and break them. I think the question that you need to ask is not whether she loves him, but whether she can trust him again. You can tell that I wouldn’t. And look at what love has made Bill do? First, betray her trust by lying, also, betray his Queen, his sheriff, attempt to kill other vampires in the end, get so mixed up in his feelings as to go back to a woman that he hates. He may be in love, but I am not impressed at what it has turned him into.

I wrote a post this weekend about whether Bill and Sookie should be together, because it has occurred to me that Bill and Sookie want different things from their mates, that they have very different personalities and as a result are not well suited for each other. Isis, I just saw you comment about Eric and Sookie being bored together. I always thought the best matches happen between people who have similar, but not identical personalities. I don’t think Eric and Sookie are identical, but they have similar temperaments. Also, I have seen disparate reactions from both of them every time they meet, from anger, to disgust, to lust, to interest, to fondness, but I have never seen boredom. In fact, they are in a state of constant friction. They are either fighting, or lusting, or arguing, or rescuing someone. It certainly didn’t look boring when she stormed into his office and he said he didn’t want to meet his death without kissing her, or how she responded to him! I think the main problem isn’t just the personalities, I think its what they want in a relationship. Bill wants someone who is timid and doesn’t get involved, that’s what he envisions, because probably that’s what he had when he was human. Sookie – well, she doesn’t know what she wants, but I don’t think she wants someone overprotective and restrictive, which is what Bill would have to be with someone like her eventually.

Eric… Every season, hell, every episode, Eric acts like a different person. But everyone has a pole of gravity, everyone has a central force that defines them, no matter how different their behavior is from time to time. If his actions seem to express a different person each time, it could only mean that we have no idea who he really is and what truly motivates him. I think in the quote you wrote before, Antonio, Sookie may be expressing this same problem – she can’t define him either. One thing is obvious: they are both stubborn, willful, fearless people. These things do define them, and what is interesting in it is that both have such powerful characters, that their collision causes constant changes in their behavior. They affect each other very powerfully. Eric makes me very curious because I can’t wait to learn who he really is. He seems like an incredibly complex person, a dark horse. Bill has already been defined, by his regret, his lost life, his lost name, his lost family, by the humanity he is attempting to regain, by his dissatisfaction in who he has become and lack of acceptance of his physical state. But we can only speculate on whether Eric is a ruthless killer and manipulator, on whether he loves Sookie or is using her, on whether he is good or bad. But the truth is, we really don’t know. I have never seen a more guarded and deflective character. He meticulously hides his true self. I can only make assertions that if Sookie, despite her decision to dislike him, obviously does like him very much while mistrusting him, then I want to trust that her instincts can reveal to us what he hides. Instinct is a powerful thing, and instincts in a telepath who has been listening in on human behavior are even more telling. Eric? I think that loyalty is what defines Eric, but that’s just my guess. I guess we’ll find out in the summer.

mich

Hey Antionio, You brought tears to my eyes reminding me of those parts of the series, when they were in the back of the van and bill almost drank her to death, I never held that against Bill tho, it’s IS in his nature and he could not help himself, Bill or Eric, either of them would of done that in the situation they were in. And him at her bedside in the hospital I was on the edge of my seat rocking and crying w my hand over my mouth , my heart truly ached for him, i love bill, i do, I do not chastise him for any of his actions, that would be hypocritical of me loving eric considering his…. short comings lol. I am a die hard Eric fan, which makes me a hypocrite i guess sticking up for bill and that is probably why noone ever replies to my posts. I can not , in good faith, take to one or the other. in real life, put me in a room with bill or Eric, and i’m all over eric, however bill has had it soooo damn hard how anyone can not feel SOMETHING for him….. yeah he f’d up a couple times, we all do, he’s more then tried to redeem himself, i just dont think him and sook are good together with the thought of sookie being so stubborn and hard headed, bill is just not tough enough for her, she needs someone that will stand up to her, she needs eric to complete her, Bill is too “good”, or as good as a vamp can be, for her. Most girls always go for the bad boys, the good guys always finish last…. anyways thanks for the reminders i think i will start watching again, it’s hard because i get so emotional.

Antonio

Wow! what an impassioned post! Impressive. Like You, Ive also defended Bill because I saw in him a deep desire to redeem himself and to try and hold onto his humanity. I agree with You,Mich…That Bill went through a great deal last season. That scene in the barn where Lorena tortured him was hard to watch.
He’d been through So much! There were times during the course of the season where i was surprised,maybe even horrified by some of his actions…when he attacked her in the back of the van. That scene was hard to watch too.
In Season 2 Sookie and Sam got treated like crap..Tara too
In season 3 it seemed several of them got treated like crap.
Bill changed…Yes,he did. Anyone would have changed and became more tough and hard…if theyd gone through what he did!
The thing is…in Season 3 BOTH Bill and Eric “lost it” to some degree! There seemed to be a “meltdown” of Bill,Eric,Sookie,Tara,Jason even Andy Bellefleur!
I was hoping that Alcide would would stand against Bill or Eric since he is a Werewolf …and a pureblood 1,at that.
It seems that Bill is the One for Sookie. That scene where he came to see her in the hospital and their heart to heart talk?
It just moved me How devoted he is to her! He is full of regrets and he feels guilty….something that Eric does Not show.
Bill wants Her Happinesss and Safety above his need for her!
Yes, he lied. Yes, he was deceptive and maybe manipulative..But He Does Love her! He may not have always know how to go about it the right way but he does! I think Bill Deserves another chance! Even Though Eric has forged a bond with her.
Ive never been so moved by a Vampire-Human couple. Usually, the Vampire Male is greedy and self serving. Bill Compton is NOT like that. Eric,However, is beginning to change,also.
he’s a vampire and yet he still has human emotions and sentiments…like Most Males he struggles to either deny them or conceal them. It was nice to see those scenes with Eric and Pam and how much they cared about each other,too!
As for Alcide,Well Hes a nice guy, a hard worker and can be friendly warm and loyal. However, (as people who have read the books know) there is also another side to him as well!
Hes Not perfect,either! Actually, I feel bad about Sookie and Alcide…But we’ve yet to see how AB will flesh this out.
In the books, Alcide and Sookie did get closer and did have a mutual attraction for each other…We’ll see what AB and the writers do with that. I wonder if John Quinn will be introduced ..perhaps near the end of S4? It would be cool to see him shift into his tiger form and kick some butt!
This is How i rate it….Bill Compton 1st choice for Sookie,Quinn 2nd, Alcide 3rd maybe?
Id like to see Eric get closer to her..But Sookie said something in S3, remember? “You can be generous and do something unselfish and then turn and do something downright cruel..You ask me to trust you then you lie to me…How can I ever trust you,Eric?”~~~Sookies words from Season 3.

Maybe She should appear on an episode of the Dating Game where Bill, Eric and Alcide would be her potential “dream” dates!
Only 1 problem with That…She Already knows these guys!

jaxx

Elise, you are a breath of fresh air. I like your analysis and it really does make sense. I agree, Bill and Sookie, while falling in love, are mismatched. Some couples, while falling in love, just don’t have the same outlook, goals, values. Bill needs to take care of Sookie, Sookie is independent and doesn’t always want to be taken care of. Sookie is more like Eric. I agree with the whole standing behind as opposed to standing next to and I have said before again and again, that the difference here is that Eric respects Sookie, for her bravery, honestly, integrity, etc. Eric looks at her with more equality than any other “human” and there lies the basis of the attraction to her. You need to be friends first and that’s what Eric and Sookie are becoming slowly, friends. And one basis for friendship is respect. The love part comes later. Bill and Sookie never really got to know each other as friends first. There was an instant physical lust and attraction but not a real friendship in the beginning based honesty and trust, imo. Well said and great analysis. 🙂

mich

Elise, I’m ALWAYS into the Eric thing, it’s what makes “sex” sex for me lol. anything but concervitive and you gave me goose bumps lol. Can you past me the link? I dont know if they let you do that on here or not, or thru my email but i want to get to the one your talking about ASAP!!! i have a long night at work tonight! full internet access w nothing else to do lol. so if ya con send me the link, and thanks, i need the raw TB that i NEED and crave!

Isis Nocturne

NIA!!! *hugs* I’ve really missed you! Glad to see you back. 🙂

As for your school question, I’m doing really well. I’ll be transferring to a film school for the fall semester this year. This semester, I’m just focused on taking my last math class for a degree in English as well as taking several film classes. 😉

Hope all is well with your family, and can’t wait to discuss Bill and Season 4 with you!

And Elise, similar personalities don’t always mesh. Sometimes it’s very true that opposites attract. That’s what I think happened with Bill and Sookie. Part of the reason he’s so refreshing to Sookie is that he’s different from everyone she knows, and not only because he’s a vampire. Bill’s had different experiences than anyone in Bon Temps, and they’ve shaped his view of things in a way that Sookie finds fascinating. I honestly think Sookie would be bored with Eric.

Elise

mich, not sure if you are still into the Eric thing 🙂 – I love the emotional turmoil this show causes, lol – but I found what I think is a pretty good fan-fiction on the alternate Sookie eric storyline. Its the one I was talking about before, and I’m really getting into it. Some parts are a bit of a drag, and unfortunately both Eric’s and Sookie’s personalities and therefore relations become pretty altered, but I actually can’t stop reading it. I’m neglecting my school work over it, which is not normal for me at all. Also, its a bit more raunchy then the books, and has some elements of S&M, ménage à trois, and exhibitionism, so if you are conservative in the bedroom department, don’t read it, it will annoy you. But if you can close your eye on some personality inconsistencies, small continuity errors, and some pretty liberal sex scenes, it could be entertaining, especially since we know according to Mrs. Harris that she will not end up with Eric, even though I know we all secretly hope she will. So, this may be that fantasy come true.

mich

Elise.. I agree with you whole heartedly in every aspect … i still think that Bill is getting way over scrutinized for his actions. I dont think they belong together tho, you made a VERY good point about their personalities (sook and eric) and i also like the point you made about “having a woman stand behind him instead of with him”. You always have amazing posts, you and melody always keep me on my toes because your on opposite sides of the TB fence but both have valid points and i love it. I am no longer AGAINST Bill per-say, but as for sook and Bill, no match, eric or alcide i feel are more her….”speed”. Excellent post Elise. made analogies i can definatley relate to

Elise

See what I mean about preference of personality? Both Bill and Eric have their pluses and minuses, and mich just said that he loved her and so she forgives Bill his mistakes. But to me, these mistakes are weaknesses of character, and I can’t abide by that, not to mention that I would be literally livid if any man keeps information from me or lies to me because its “for my own good” or because he loves me and is afraid to lose me. That is just so disrespectful. This whole “protect me” thing is just not for me. I prefer to stand next to my man, shoulder to shoulder, defending what I think is right, not behind him because I need his protection and because he will take care of me.

Trust me, I more then anyone know what its like getting swept away by passion, but passion is not restricted to working towards an orgasm. Loving someone means loving the whole person, including their mind and ability, and respecting them enough to make them a part of your life and all its problems, and doing that with passion and abandon. Has anyone ever seen that Mel Gibson movie about William Wallace? Remember how in the end she wanted him to run away with her (or was it to surrender to the king if he loved her because she couldn’t stand his pain?) , but he didn’t because he had responsibilities towards his people? And despite his passion for her, he remained and didn’t even take the drug to numb his pain during his execution? He put his honor and people before his personal passion. It wasn’t because he wasn’t a passionate man, it was because he had character. I’m not comparing Eric to William Wallace… I’m just saying that love and passion is wonderful, but a man of character will love you with him character, not turn into an 18 year boy who can’t control his hormones and forget his honorable conduct because he just wants you soooo much… I understand why she went to him, and the state she was in (her gran just died) but lets not project her situation unto him. Who died in his life to make him forget his situation?

But there is one thing that I think Bill fans like to avoid mentioning (just an observation, no insult intended, we are all human): its Sookies’ personality. She is very much like Eric herself. Her personality isn’t like Bill’s at all, and Eric and she are more alike then meets the eye. She is William Wallace. Bill treats her like a damsel in distress, tries to protect her from the elements, but that is not her true character. They are fundamentally a bad match. She is stubborn, refuses to stand on the sidelines, fearless even though she is a human in a supe world and is so much weaker then them, is not afraid of saying what she thinks even if it kills her and will play whatever role she needs to achieve her purpose (remember how she walked into the FOTS church to try to find Godrick?) I sometimes think that her relationship with Bill was doomed from the start once this contrasting view of her role in a relationship would come to the surface. Bill needs a soft and and feminine woman who will stay behind when he tells her to, who will not take it upon herself to go to Fangtasia looking for information, where she will look straight into the face of a 1,000 year old vampire and in answer to him calling her sweet, challenge him with “not really.” Sookie needs a man who will take her opinions and decisions seriously, someone who can match that strong character we see in her. I find it funny that Bill gets so frustrated with that part of her, while Eric becomes fascinated and excited over it. I think that’s why despite himself Eric respects her so much. Both Sookie and Eric are warriors. I know she seems wishy-washy for now, but I see the elements of her character and I believe when she will “become herself” this will become more evident. However wishy washy, she does have guts, and probably more then Bill does. I guess now we know the other reason why I like Eric 🙂 I’m a bit of a warrior too, in my own Russian way.

jaxx

Well hello Nia. I thought we lost you forever girl. Hope all is well with you and your family. I bought a new Kuerig coffee maker and it’s ready to go. I can get coffee now if less than one minute, and, I’ll be sure to stock up on snacks in preparation for S4. LOL.

With ALL the events of S3, I’m really looking forward to S4. Can’t wait to see what happens to both Bill and Eric, especially with Sookie going to faeland. I think she’ll be a changed Sookie when she comes back and I’m really warming up to the idea of HER having amnesia this season. I think it would put a different twist on things in how she relates to Bill, Eric, Sam, Alcide, Pam, Jason, etc.

Glad to see you back. 🙂

Nia

Hi Melody and everyone here…WAVES..
Believe me you are not alone!!
I used to post here extensively quite some time ago but have not posted much because of family issues so my posting in sites overall has diminished to just one.
I will tell you now that I am a huge Bill lover and will always be. I adore the show for all the drama it has given us and all the actors are phenomenal. But it was and is Stephen and Bills story that had first and foremost captured and still holds my heart.
I will try to be around more often, although catching up will be nigh impossible.
I do know few posters here quite well!!
Lizzie girl, hows it going?? And Jaxx, up for a latte soon? Isis, hows school? I have missed you and AdoreBill.
Antonio, hope you are well.

mich

Antionio, (everybody get ready)

That is ONE thing Bill always made sookie feel, and that was safe and very loved. He is one of the most passionate men/vamps i have ever “met”. I love eric, trust me, but that is the ONE thing he lacks, and that’s TRUE passion and emotion at 100%. Noone can make a love scene sexier then Bill. There’s never anything “dirty” about making love to Bill. And In reality (now everyone hold on to there seats) if i had to choose a lifetime partner, it would be BILL… Eric is sexy and that’s that. Bill is someone i would never question his intentions or loyalty ONCE he loves me. Today I am taking a walk on the other side with Lizzy and Melody folks. I have been re watching TB bits and pieces, and in THIS world, without all the drama and BAD BOY lust I have for Eric, I have to swallow my pride and agree with the other side, Bill f’d up, big deal, we all do it, and let’s keep in mind, he IS a vampire TRYING to be human, if that’s not hard enough, let’s remember that HUMANS make the most mistakes and we live by them. So bill make 2 mistakes… His original and not telling her about it, so what. how many mistakes has eric made? wait, they Weren’t mistakes, they were intention and premeditated. So bill, here i am, go get her!! Eric, your hot, but I am in agreeance (however it’s spelled) that Bill made a mistake and let’s lay off him guys, he’s more then suffered for them and deserves a second chance. 2 mistakes that were intentional, the rest he’s MORE then tried to prevent or sacrificed his own life to intervene. I’m done with sticking up for Eric, I now understand why you few Bill people are so frustrated!! Sorry Eric-tiers, I gotta defend Bill for a while. Just take a few min’s and look at it from a human prospective, as well as a vampire’s. They ARE NOT HUMAN trying to BE human. He made a couple mistakes which Eric’s more then trumped in the end! Just because i like the bad boy in Eric, i’m taking off the blinders now, and Bill is NOT the bad one here and if anyone cant take 5 min’s to really, THINK about it logically, you’ll see that scrutinizing Bill for his couple downfalls is ridiculous!! He’s an amazing loving LOYAL man that MADE an oops. I know everyone is gonna say… “he watched her get beat, he made her drink from his blood, blah blah bal” not much of a list. now list what erics done…. not enough time or space. then you’ll say ” he owed sookie and bill nothing”, ok well then stop saying “but eric loves sookie” cant go both ways, and with bill is only ONE way!! he loves her and has and will spend the rest of eternity trying to make up for it. I hope i’m welcome in Bill land cause i’m ready for what’s a head of me being here. BIll is not the bad guy here… keep ONE thing in mind that everyone keeps saying,,, (now follow me) “eric owes bill and sookie nothing so that’s why he’s let off the hook” now remember, when bill did what he did he also owed sookie NOTHING at the time!! so what he didnt tell her, he was trying not to cause her any pain, and what was done was done, he couldn’t go back and fix it, he now loves her, Do you REALLY think bill would let ANY of that happen now that he loves her? NOOOOOOO so lay off bill he’s done NOTHING wrong being that we give passes as long as “they owe someone nothing ” lol. so here’s you pass bill, I have opened my eyes, and i am in Bill land from now on and i’ll debate this till the cows, or vampires, come home!! Hi, my names Michelle, and i’m a Bill lover…. 1st step is addmitting when your wrong, and i was. second step is acceptance :0)?

Antonio

I must say that I agree with what Isis said here. Sookie put the nightgown on and ran out to meet Bill. Bill then opened the doors to his home and stood upon the porch. He closed his eyes..He could sense that she was running to him and And he could sense Why she was running to him! Which is WHY he ran to meet her in that Huge embrace! I agree with Isis,here The 1st Time they made love,He could sense how much she needed him and That was Not duplicity at All! Yes, He could have told her the truth,But,She was in a fragile state after losing her Gran and then when she told him about her Uncle Bartlett and what he did to her he just wanted her to feel safe.

mich

MELODY MELODY MELODY!!! Thank you, so stupid how stressed i’ve been then when Lizzy showed up, I’m like, omg mel, come back Lizzy’s here lol. Good, sorry about bill i feel bad, i think i’ll just keep quiet for a while and watch it all around me. i DO feel bad for the avid bill fans cause like i said amillion times, I LOVE BILL and always have, just not THAT way. so carry on ya’ll, so glad your back Melody xoxox

Melody

MICH!!! Baby girl! I’m not mad at you or anyone!! Everybody here, I apologize if I came off like some whiney drama queeen. Not what I meant to do at all. I love this sight, but I was losing the Bill battle and I was definitely in the minority here until Lizzie showed up (thank you!!)
I’m not mad/upset/ticked off/ at anyone and I am new here, so I guess I just didn’t word anything right that day. Sorry.
Everyone,….please carry on….I’m lovin the conversations…..

jaxx

Applause all around Elise!!! Nicely said. I totally agree with your assessment. 🙂 This is what’s nice about this site. You get so many different perspectives of the same scenario. Sometimes there are just things you don’t think of or see that others do. Nice job to everyone all around. 🙂

Elise

Liz, following my previous comment, you know what I’m wondering? If Eric is so capable of putting himself completely aside to do his duty towards his human family, I wonder how far he would go in doing the right thing for Sookie if he would permit himself to have a tie to her, just like he has towards Pam or towards his human family? Its like he has this inner circle, with only Pam being an active and “alive” person in it at this point, and everyone outside this circle is expendable if deemed important. I wonder, if Sookie ever makes it into this inner circle, how far would he go to protect, defend, and honor her? If he was willing to end his 1,000 year existence to do his duty for a family that would have died a 1,000 times by now, what would he do for someone who exists now? I guess you could say that Eric has character.

I think the question on the back of my mind, which I can’t answer well enough to myself, however (maybe you guys can help me with that) is why did Sookie drag him back and saved him after he resolved to die in the sun with Russell? I hesitate to think it was just because she was being a good samaritan, there is something there, something that Sookie has for him, that I can’t quiet express just yet. And, well, she kissed him back, in the office, before Pam convinced him to use her? She responded, despite everything she claims she hates about him. The blood connection? Not good enough, I think there is something more there. Its not that loves him, at least not yet, but there is a connection there. Its like an unfinished sentence, and you don’t know what it says because the last few words are erased. Makes you so hungry for the next season…

jaxx

Hey Lizzie, nice to hear from you. Would you please tell Nia we do miss her too!! We did have some heated debates and sorry if you felt uncomfortable coming here. I am a debater, always have been. I do like to hear both sides of a discussion. Stress isn’t good for anyone though. I, myself, am striving to be kinder and gentler in 2011 to all here. It’s ok to be passionate about the show, but when you come down to it, this is only a TV show, no sense in getting crazy or upset over it. We all have real lives and loved ones to worry about. It is the way AB says it is and that’s it. Besides, I will always have my books, so I’m good this year. LOL.

And, while Eric did not say Bill’s name specifically in the quote, they showed a flashback of Sookie being beaten up by the Rattrays implying what Eric was talking about, so I guess we’re both right in a sense.

Eric wanted Sookie to know the truth about Bill’s ulterior motives. Eric has watched from the sidelines for a long time giving Bill many opportunities to come clean to Sookie. I guess burying him in cement was the last straw and he finally had enough and told Sookie the truth. LOL. Eric does care for Sookie at this point. If this would have happened in S1, I don’t think Eric would have cared enough to tell Sookie anything at all. Things have changed now. Bill did rat out Eric to Russell also so I think snitching will and does even out with those two vamps.

I personally am waiting for Sookie to hook up with Alcide and/or Eric for a while. It’s good to date others and see what else is out there before settling on someone, imo. Who knows, she still may end up with Bill at the end and if so, then that’s the way it’s meant to be. I’m just in it for the ride right now.

Hope to see you 2 pop in now and then. 🙂

Elise

Liz, I totally agree with you about Eric, as well as all the characters have been splintered and made raw – its wonderful and its probably what makes this my favorite show. Eric, despite his unwanted affection towards Sookie, is a conflicted mess in S3. It seems that is attempting to force himself to do what he considers his duty, revenge, over his growing feelings for her. In a way, Eric and Bill are complete opposites. Bill falls so deeply for her that he abandons his responsibilities and eventually becomes saw shattered by his emotions that, it seems, looses even some of what I’d call standard of honorable behavior (referring to not exposing himself to her in the beginning.) Eric goes the opposite direction, not acknowledging his feelings, hating them, and fighting them in the most desperate fashion. In this, both Bill and Eric are flawed. And in this, then, it become a matter of taste of each person watching. Some become impressed by a man so lost and abandoned in his own feelings that he will give up every part of himself to be loyal to them, and some who are impressed by a man who will do what he considers righteous and honorable despite his deepest heartfelt desire. It could be, there is virtue in both.

As I said before, I prefer Eric because of his personality, his appearance is only icing on the cake. I suppose for me, and this is only personal preference, a man who can abandon his own nature and loyalties for love, shows weakness. While Eric’s pursuit of vengeance is misguided, he was raised to believe it was a question of honor and virtue, and the respect he must accord his family. Therefore for me, while I am incredibly annoyed that he would be so intent on it as to unwittingly betray her and I consider this his personal failure, I find more attraction in a man willing to put aside his personal feelings to act honorably. This action shows that he realizes that he is more then one man with feelings, he is a part of a family and a society, and that he takes responsibility for those that he is tied to. I guess that’s why he is sheriff, and why I like people with power. 🙂 Leaders make sacrifices people often don’t see, and Eric is a leader who fell in love. Bill is a man in love.

mich

Hi Lizzy, You dont know me like everyone else on here does. When i said Beel, it’s because it’s how sookie says his name, i was being funny and bringing the charecter into my post.. so let down your guard alittle, we’re not ALWAYS so serious on here., Passionate yes, And i have seen plenty of sookehh’s on here, talking how Bill says her name, so please use respect when replying, i am not a child and DO know how to spell Bill’s name,, that is my personality. That being said, Did bill EVER deny it? NOOOOO that’s the point everyone is trying to make, watching, it. ordering it WHATEVER!! If i was getting beat to an inch of my life, my worst enemy would try and stop it, NOT WATCH IT!! really? you think you can justify it by saying ” he didnt order it? he watched?” LMFAO!! NOW that sounds silly. You can pick on my spelling,( which is horrid), correct my names, say what you will, it’s all opinion on here and Bill WATCHING was fact. Say Eric’s name any way you want, could care less, i dont get defensive over the asshole, however, he’s my fav, so? THAT being said, it’s a show not reality. we dont fight , we debate and i’m sorry if my humor of Beel wasn’t funny to you, that’s how sookie talks and i was quoting… so Beel it was.. as far as the turn out of how AB turns this is anyones guess, we’re probably all wrong and lala ends up with eric and bill and sookie with Pam for all we know, the only FACT NOONE can dispute and we ALL agree on is that TB is the best show out there, so keep the opinions coming ya’ll!!

lizzie1701

Hi Mich!

I will copy and paste my response to what Eric said to Bill again – I actually wrote down verbatim from the episode what Eric said to Bill “what about letting 2 psycho’s beat her within an inch of her life so that you could feed her your blood”. It has yet to be divulged that Bill had arranged for the beating. Eric did NOT say that Bill had arranged for Sookie to be beaten. Sookie asked Bill (his name is Bill, not Beel – it is like saying Eyuk for Eric – not good!) and yes, Bill said he did watch whilst she was beaten – not that he had arranged for the beating! There is a difference, Mich! Now, Bill”s theme for S4 will be redemption – what a great storyline for Stephen Moyer, don’t you think?

mich

Isis, Totally agree with your point of WHY sook may have had sex with Bill “for her loss of Gran, her need to feel human” even MORE reason for bill to NOT take her virginity! That , as well as Gran, she can never get back. I believe whole heartedly, that Bill loved her at that point or sealed the deal of his love for her. I dont believe Bill ever WANTED to hurt Sook, it’s just how it played out and in the end he horribly regretted it. I just wish HE would have told her, BUT.. he didnt’. Like Elise said, Eric has NO aliance to either Bill or sook, and if someone tried to bury me in cement, omg, i would SOOOOO have done the same thing and told sook what Bill had done, it’s in HUMAN nature to avenge his OWN “humanity” “Vampirity” whatever you wanna call it. And Bill tried to kill him! THE SHERIFF , the one BILL is supposed to answeer to. Up untill THAT point Eric kept his mouth shut! So sorry, as impartial as i am, or try to be, HE TRIED TO BURY ERIC IN CEMENT!! That’d piss me off enough to want a little revenge, and if i prospure something from it, even better!

Again, i Love Bill and he loves sook, but they are not good together, it’s not how it’s gonna end up, they are like oil and water.. BIll has almost killed HIMSELF trying to save sookie, yes, but trying to save sookie for a position HE put her in. sorry I hope noones mad, i usually dont go tthis far lol. Good morning by the way everyone, still have to have coffee and then i’ll start my normal flip flopping again,,,

mich

Hey Lizzie, Welcome back, Newbe MICH here lol… When Eric Tells Sook that Bill had her beaten by the Rats, sookie said “Beel?, Is that True?” And bill looked like he had beeb shot, and said “I’M SORRY SOOKIE” What does that mean?

I love Bill, so blame this on me being a eric lover, i just PREFER him and not because Bills bad or Bill did this or Bill did that, it’s because I’m not attracted to Bill THATS THE ONLY REASON, so I dont take sides here if you re through my posts, i flip flop. one min i am on bill’s side the next is eric the next is sook blah blah, so i dont take sides. i love em all!! so i’m always up for a good debate, i’m as impartail as they come here. Although i DO have to give props to my girl Elise, followed you like a shadow thru your posting. well written

lizzie1701

Elise, Hi. I regret using sleaze in a way, but the look of him preening himself whilst telling Sookie “the truth” (lets see what AB does here as he said in his video clip that all is not as it seems)and flicking off bits of cement – he did that deviously and with his back to Sookie. He was more of a prick.

Anyhow, I tend to agree with a lot you have said re Bill telling Sookie. Once they did the biz, it would have been hard for him to tell her, I guess, and let’s face it, Sookie was not receptive in listening to ‘Vampire Politics’ and has a short fuse. He was really probably waiting for the right time. I am a bit like him in that I don’t like hurting people and do take a long time to say or do something.

Anyhow, AB said at the beginning that this will be a love affair between two misfits and they will have to overcome trials and tribulations to be together in love blah blah blah. AB has turned around just about everyone and made them raw images of themselves and it is now the time for redemption and bettering oneself. So I will look forward to Bill’s redemption!

Also, re Eric at Fangtasia, you thought that Eric does not like drinking from some one by force – you forget the incident with Laf at Fangtasia when he had Laf chained up and after Laf tried to escape (by biting into Royce’s hip for the metal after Eric chewed him to death) and poor Laf was lying on the lounge pleading for his life or to be turned, then Eric, Pam and Chow fed on him, causing him to cry in pain and horror. So, I guess he does drink without permission.

Also, when Eric had his GREAT PLAN to top KRE, he had Sookie chained up, Bill and Yvetta saved her, then Eric found her again for KRE whilst she and Bill were trying to escape. Now, KRE took the first bite and Sookie yelped and Eric took his bite and Sookie winced. They both must have drank a bit because Sookie went to Fae Land, like she did when Bill almost drained her. Now, Eric said after his “great revelation” to Sookie re Bill, that he would not have intentionally hurt her, but Eric DID NOT HAVE A PLAN for Sookie!!! Sookie was almost drained and Bill was tied up begging Pam to let him free so as to save Sookie. Now, wouldn’t you think that Eric would have had a plan for Sookie? ie Pam giving Sookie her blood?/ I mean, Eric was going to meet the sun with KRE, so, in his mind he was not coming back. Now, if he was so interested in Sookie and did not mean to harm her, why did he not make provision for her to be given blood after her draining? Why did Bill have to beg Pam to release him so that he could feed her??? Bad Plan, Eric, and he lied to Sookie in that revelation scene. He was so incensed with having revenge with KRE, he did not care. Plus, because of Eric and his revenge, killing Talbot and making KRE go crazy and do what he did on TV, has more or less destroyed the VRA movement, like Bill said to him. AB said that Eric will be involved with Vampire politics for S4. I wander if he will have a lot of explaining to do to the Authority??

Isn’t True Blood exciting!! So many puzzles!

Isis Nocturne

“Moreover, what kind of a good southern gentleman has sex with a woman while on the kind of mission that QSA sent him to do, without even having the decency to come clean to her prior to intercourse? What does that say about his character, having sex under pretenses like that?”

I think you’re misreading the scene a bit, Elise. If you’re referring to the beginning of Bill and Sookie’s sexual relationship, think about how it starts. Sookie’s in mourning over the sudden loss of Gran. It’s human nature afterwards to feel the need to celebrate life. Sookie runs to Bill for companionship and her need to really live. Her first time is celebrating the fact that she’s alive.

Having been through a situation in the not-too-distant past where I had to get past the sudden loss of a family member, I can understand how Sookie’s pain turns to a need for physical comfort. I’m not going to speculate, but there’s no telling how Sookie would have reacted, which could have been very rashly. I think Bill understood just how badly she needed him at that moment. Yes, he’s still wrong for not telling her the truth sooner. However, I believe that duplicity was not Bill’s concern when he and Sookie first made love.

Sheila

Hi Isis, as much as I am team Eric at the moment, I must admit that Alcide/Sookie is something I am looking forward to seeing, I have said it before, I will say it again, I think she should see what Alcide has to offer, and Eric, and let the better Supe win, but it’s still a tough choice. Luck Girl either way.

Elise

LIzzie, I know that we have no proof from a third party that Bill intended for Sookie to get beat up, but I have no doubt that its true. His attitude following this statement from Eric was thoroughly guilt ridden and I recall (I haven’t seen it in a while, so I hope my memory stands) he began apologizing following Eric’s disclosure. He behaved ashamed and pissed that the information got divulged. I realize Eric is a bastard in a lot of ways, but he isn’t Sookie’s boyfriend, he really has no responsibility for her. Despite the fact that Eric plainly had less then honorable motives in disclosing this information on Bill, if indeed it was true, I really can’t call any man sleazy for stating the truth, no matter how opportunistic or manipulative the timing is. If the statement is true, then we must respect the truth, whatever the circumstance. What bothered me about the situation is that he must have known about it in order to disclose it, and for a while.

Moreover, what kind of a good southern gentleman has sex with a woman while on the kind of mission that QSA sent him to do, without even having the decency to come clean to her prior to intercourse? What does that say about his character, having sex under pretenses like that?

Again, I am not saying that Eric isn’t duplicitous. I am only saying that Sookie isn’t Eric’s partner and so he has no obligation to her. Still, at least with Eric we get what we see. He tells her, plainly, yes, I want to have sex with you, and oh, yes, I need to use you, for your gift, as well. If Eric manipulates her or doesn’t disclose something to her, I’ll say “figures..” but when Bill discloses that he’s been working for the QSA all along, its different, I feel betrayed after all that love and commitment. There is no comparison between the two, they are in different positions.

On a personal note, I’d be incredibly annoyed if my boyfriend chose to keep me in the dark about the situation that he is in and that he is dragging me into “for my own good and protection.” Really, she is a blond barmaid, not a mentally retarded 12 year old, and if he wants to have a relationship with her on an equal footing, he should level with her, right off the bat, give her the respect of treating her like an equal, and take his licks if his honesty causes a temporary emotional outburst from her. Bill… is a wuss. A man should have the guts to spill it, if he does love her, that is. He’s been sheltering and keeping her a little too much. And, lets put Eric aside for a minute, why did he try to kill him? He told her its because he wanted to kill everyone who knew of her blood, but we know that’s not true. In the midst of everything Eric is, I don’t see him being such a liability. Really? You think he would? Even when he tried playing Russell in Fangtasia and to that end should have bit her neck, he hesitated for so long (doesn’t look like he likes to take anyone against their will) that Russell got impatient and bit her first. So what is the real reason for cementing him? I can infer that it was probably to keep his deal with QSA and his consent to beating a secret. Again, I am presuming, but I have good reason to. Its the most logical reason for his behavior. Yes, I think its very romantic that she obviously mattered to him so much, that he attempted to kill a 1,000 year old sheriff, his child, and the Queen of Louisiana. But all that could have been avoided if he could have acted like a man from the beginning and took the hit by telling her the truth. In the end, that was his responsibility.

lizzie1701

Hi all, I’m Lizzie. Avid True Blood watcher, avid Bill lover and avid Stephen Moyer Lover! I am NOT a fan of Eric nor do I think he is an innocent, good looking or sexy. There, that is all covered.

Nia and I used to debate here OFTEN but we were worn down by endless debate and sticking up for our boy Bill. It was just going round and round in circles and I guess you love who you love and hear what you want to hear or see. Nia used to post direct quotes from the books or the series and it still did not matter or register, so she is on holiday in a Bill friendly site for a while. She also has personal issues and can’t post often but may come back prior to S4. I, on the other hand, lurk, and let Nia know what is being said etc. I do post a little on various articles, but I am also war weary. So many sites and so much hatred for Bill – it takes it toll. I also work very odd hours and late at night and am sometimes too tired to post.

But, I think I am back! So Isis and Melody – I have your backs!

Jaxx – Eric did not say that Bill had arranged to have Sookie beaten up – I just watched the last few minutes again of ep 12 S3 and Eric said “what about letting 2 psycho’s beat her within an inch of her life so that you could feed her your blood”. It has yet to be divulged that Bill had arranged for the beating. Don’t you think Eric was a sleaze ball for divulging this info – not for Sookie’s welfare, but as punishment for Bill for trying to cement him? (Before you go “but Bill tried to kill Eric” – don’t forget that Eric was trying to get Bill first! He tried to get rid of Bill at the tribunal knowing the punishment was 5 years in a coffin with silver and in the first episode of S3, we know he had Rueben go and bring Bill in because the Queen was not happy about Bill knowing about the V sales. I am sure Bill was not being asked around for a bottle of Tru Blood!)

Antonio – Bill did not knowingly lead King Russell to Sookie. Go back to when Debbie Pelt visited Alcide and Sookie was resting in bed and heard the arguing. She came out and Debbie started throwing abuse to Sookie. Sookie asked what she had done with Bill Compton and in Debbie’s mind, Sookie heard “who is Bill Compton?”. She also said some nasty stuff to Sookie, accusing her of being with Alcide. Now, we know that Debbie is Cooter’s girfriend and she went back and told Cooter what was going on at Alcide’s and Sookie asking her about Bill. Now, we know that the King knew that Sookie was in Jackson. Cooter went up to Bill to tease him about Sookie and Bill bashed him up. The King was teasing Bill as he already knew that Sookie was at Alcide’s from Debbie. He was then playing a joke at Bill’s expense, because Bill had told the King he no longer was interested in Sookie blah blah blah and the King wanted to prove Bill was lying (there – that word that EL’s love to use). Bill went to Sookie and so did the King and Cooter because they knew already where she was! Just watch the episode again, Antonio. You will see it make sense.

Anyhow, that’s enough from me. I might seem harsh in my treatment of Eric, but I am a big pussycat, and my purr is louder than my roar!!! It is all fiction and is meant to get us all going and it is TRUE BLOOD!

Isis Nocturne

Good point. Of course, by this point I like to stay on sites that are only for my ‘ships, so a lot of those bad fics are already weeded out. 🙂

Hmmmm… Now that we’ve been talking about fanfics, I may have to write one or two based off the spoilers we’ve gotten! LOL

Elise

You are absolutely correct, Isis, I just trying to warn mich not to expect fireworks. I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but I tend to steer towards the negative sometimes… I like being pleasantly surprised.

mich

Thanks Isis, and I am on the site now, If i didnt work nights all week and haven’t slept, it’d be a llong night lol. Cant believe i’ve never heard of this, it’ll take me a while to get to what i’m looking for, TB of course, but i will then i’ll thank ytou again!! Night TBN.com BFF’S sleep tight, tty all in the AM!! signed.. sleeping in Farmington:0)

Isis Nocturne

There are some very good fanfiction writers out there who either become professional authors who end up writing their own original material, or they legally can publish their fanfiction and it’s good enough that it becomes canon. For example, one of my favorite books, Phantom by Susan Kay, is essentially a fanfic about the life of the Phantom of the Opera from his birth until his death. It’s been printed several times, and in the most recent Phantom of the Opera movie, a few side plots were from Kay’s book rather than Leroux’s original or ALW’s reimagination of the story. Another favorite author of mine, Laura Kreitzer, writes amazing original fiction. However, she started off practicing her skills by writing Twilight fanfiction. It’s a very broad world. 🙂

Of course, a majority of the fanfiction is off in some way or other (oftentimes bad writing), but sift through it, and you may find some treasures. 🙂 Also, I have it on good authority from a couple of famous paranormal romance writers that most (but not all) writers are okay with fanfiction, and have done it themselves in the past, though it wasn’t as visible then as it is now. 🙂

Mich, there’s literally millions of categories of fanfiction. I recommend starting with fanfiction.net to find it, as there’s tons of genres, and within most of them, you can specify what pairing you want. 🙂

Elise

Just remember, sometimes these are not as well written. Sometimes the characters are not as vivid, or sometimes there is virtually no plot, sometimes you read them and you say “when did Sookie become a trophy wife and a doormat?” or “Why is Eric trying to kill Bill? This doesn’t agree with the characters we’ve come to know. ” Also, check the ratings – some people write x-rated versions. 🙂 These are not the real thing, but sometimes they keep you entertained.

jaxx

LOL mich and Isis, we all can agree on Alcide. Yum, he’s my warm-blooded favorite. What a perfect body, you can’t deny that. I totally agree, an Alcide/Sookie hookup would be fine with me also, I’m sorta looking forward to it. hee hee

mich

OMG Elise, you gave me goose bumps!! I am soooo excited to look it up. and we can just read what people wrote right on line??? so i will try and google true blood fan-fiction… i’m so excited! Thanks you rock!

mich

OMG ISIS!! Think about it, she’d have the best of everything, A sup, (which is still hot being “not all human” and having the daylight, a family, a baby, and someone WARM to snuggle up to AND HOT!!??? now THAT”S the best it gets, i still love eric, but i guess in an unrealistic non commitment way lol. Alcide would be the whole package for Sook!! although she likes drama and with Debbie being gone… she may not like alcide with no drama, unless AB follows the books, then there’s drama, so hell yeah Sookie…. Could it get any better really??? If he was an ass hole, he’d be my perfect choice lol.

Elise

mich, fanfiction – there are people who write their own continuation stories to the published books they’ve read. For example, for those of us who read all 10 books, and we know how the last one ends, there are people who like the stories and want to write their own versions of what happens next. These don’t match to what the original writers probably would have done with the characters, and usually are not as well written as the books. They are usually written by fans. Some are short, some are long. For example, I found one online for the Sookie Stackhouse novels, that starts where book 9 finished. In it, Naiell uses fairy magic to impregnate Sookie with Eric’s baby, and they move in together and get married. She gives birth to a fairy baby with vampire powers and she changes her mind and decides that she wants Eric to turn her. Completely against the original plot, a totally different story, and the characters all sound very different, but its kind of cool, because you have a totally different scenario, kind of an alternate universe, where Eric turns Sookie and they live happily ever after. With some vampire killing and kingdom take overs of course 🙂 There is a million of these online, just do a google search.

Isis Nocturne

LOL, don’t get me started on Alcide! I may be a Bill lover at heart, but ZOMG Alcide! *drools*

Let me put it this way: I still am a HARDCORE Rogue/Wolverine ‘shipper from X-Men (the movies), and my love of that ‘ship has caused me to be absolutely fine if Sookie and Alcide hook up in S4. After all, AP was Rogue, and Alcide has that Wolverine look… Yeah, I’m totally fine if AB ends up sending us down the were/part-fae path… 😀

mich

well i know i’ve never felt anything but welcome, and new crew or old, we’re all together when we’re here and i love to read what new and old have to say, Kind of silly all of this stuff, I like that you all have been so nice and include everyone in the conversation. as a matter a fact I thought Melody had been here forever she know’s so much, you and her and elise have the best discussions. I dont know half as much as i thought i did, i was so closed off in my eric world that i never looked past it, and she (melody) has actually brought me over to Bill more then i ever thought i would be!! as far as Sam and ALCIDE…. I cant believe i have never even mentioned them, Sams hot in that “high class redneck” sort of way (which i consider myself lol) and ALCIDE??!!! OMG if you look up the definition of “what a perfectly flawless, down to earth, huge hearted man looks like” there he’d be. he’s amazing, he’s my second fav eye candy, Bill’s a close second but holy cow really???!!! I’m such a shmuck , i get so wrapped up in eric and bill, i lose the other two. Ok,, Jason? He’s smokin too, in a “DAH” sorta way, but still easy on the eyes if ya know what i mean!

jaxx

mich, it’s ok to like both Bill and Eric. I actually like Sam and Alcide too. Quite honestly, I do feel for Bill. He is caught between a rock and a hard place. Started out a mission and ended up falling in love. If he only would have gone about things differently for me. I do like his character on TB though. SM is a great actor. It will be interesting to see what they do with Bill this season. I hope Melody comes back too. Didn’t mean to alienate her. Just commented we miss some of the old posters as well but always welcome new posters. The more the better. It makes for great discussions. 😉

mich

Hey Elise, what is fan-fiction??? anything to do w TB? Not that I dont have enough to do trust me, but i’m curious!! I am terrible at debating Jaxx, I seem to just be so wish washhy and when you guys post, you all have so many valid points that i cant decide which way is up lol. I thought coming onto this site that i new who i was with TB, next thing i know i’m pissed off at sookie and feeling bad for Bill and wishing I could “be Eric’s”, then next thing i know now i’m like..”Yeah, Elise is right you SOB, you’ll “BE MINE” till I decide you aren’t anymore lol!!” So it’s always so fun to read what all you you are saying because you give me excitement and something new to think about everyday lol. Unfortunately, i never know who i’m gonna be. I feel so bad about Melody, she hasn’t posted all day and I still dont know what i wrote that made her mad?? maybe she didn’t mean me?? I feel terrible, i really liked her. oh well cant stress over it. it’s fun reading antonio’s point of view too. i’m just so glad i’m not the only TB fantasy person in the world, i was beggining to think there was something wrong with me!!

Isis Nocturne

Jaxx, I totally agree! We’re all grown ups here, and we’ve had some great debates. I miss them too. 🙂

Elise

Oh, yeah, jaxx, totally agree with that. Its a crazy, supernatural drama, and no telling where it will end up. It occurred to me today that I may want Sookie to get together with Eric, but I wouldn’t do it myself. I mean, he is hot, especially his personality, but I think I’d prefer being his sister to being his mate. I wouldn’t want anyone to claim me, ever. I’d prefer to be unclaimed forever then be in a position when anyone call refer to me as “mine.” I’d probably turn around and tell him he’s got it backwards, he is mine, and only as long as I feel like it. 🙂 But I guess that’s why I’m not Sookie. Personally, I’ve been keeping myself busy with some fan-fiction awaiting S4. Its been helping a little.

jaxx

Isis, I miss those 2 crazy kids. LOL. Hope they come back when S4 starts up again. We really need a good debate or two. It’s been a while. 🙂

jaxx

Elise, I agree but where would the drama of the show be if every character “did the right thing all the time”. LOL. It sure is going to get interesting in S4.

jaxx

Melody, it’s all good. This is not an “Eric only” site. We all play pretty well together. Stay with us. It’s always good to hear the flip side of an opinion or point. 🙂

Isis Nocturne

*overly dramatic* Nooooo! Don’t leave me, Melody! I need my fellow Bill lover here since the other two who were here seem to have vanished!

Please don’t leave me here on my lonesome! As much as I love the chats I have with the Eric fans *sends out hugs and kisses to all*, it’s nice to also have someone else who sees True Blood the same way I do. 🙂

mich

Melody omg I was NOT being mean to you at all, i dont know why you sound mad at me??? Your my number one on here i would NEVER post anything to upset you, re read my post honey and tell me what i said??? I dont want you mad at me, you know i flip flop my opinions with Bill, i love him reguardless,,, i just read different posts and other peoples opinions sometimes bring me to one side or the other, that’s what i love about this site is that everyone HAS their own opinions and it opens my eyes to see other points of view, so again i am very sorry if i said something wrong? i re read it and didn’t see it. so NO!!! i dont want you to go anywhere else!!!-mich

Elise

No, Melody, don’t leave! Being able to explore different sides of the argument is what makes this page so good! Yeah, I went through the same thing with Twilight. After True Blood Twilight seems weak. Vampires are blood sucking fiends who don’t sparkle.

Melody

Mich, I”m just as new as you are and at least most folks here are “Eric” people. I’m new and I”m pretty much alone in my defense for Bill…..so, hello…..can I come in and play too? I dont know. Or should I take my Bill fantasies to another site…we Bill people are in the minority…Maybe it’s because he looks ALOT like my first boyfriend (first love) and also because I love civil war stuff…and he is civil war stuff…..okay, it’s early in the morning and I’m not really awake yet so excuse the ridiculous ramblings. I am so bored waiting for S4, Im on the “witches” thing in the book I am re-re-reading to pass time. Husband bought me “Death’s Takes a Vacation” with Charlaine Harris stories in it (only one)…..cant get into it passed her story…am totally spoiled with the TB cast. And I was in such a state waiting for the the next Twilight movie to come out….PULEEEZE….what was I thinking..after discovering Sookie/Bill/Eric…..there really is nothing more for me.
Antonio, I love your synapsis….they are always such food for thought. You get so deep…..I enjoy reading it…makes me think….

jaxx

Antonio, don’t forget in our world Seasons 1 and 2 encompassed 2 to 3 years where in TB world, seasons 1, 2 and 3 were about 6-10 or so weeks in duration. Don’t forget in Arlene’s sonogram she was about 9-10 weeks pregnant with Renee’s baby. QSA probably wanted to give Bill some time to accomplish his mission. She did mention wanting to meetin Sookie when Bill went to see her, so she didn’t forget about it and like someone said, she had Hadley as a snack so there really wasn’t that much of a rush. At the end of season 3, I’m guessing it was about 2 months or so since Bill came to BT. I think all the seasons continued where we left off. Season 1 probably a 3-4 weeks, season 2 about 2 week and season 3 about 3 or so weeks. JIMO.

Elise

I remember her grandmother died, she walked into the house, ate her pecan pie, put on her nightgown and ran to Bill. He ran to her, grabbed her, and made love to her. I understand that it was a heated moment of passion when she accepted him… But not telling her and falling into the moment instead makes Bill weak. he is a man, not an 18 year old boy who can’t control his libido. And she only met Eric once, and had no ties to him at this point. At this point, he was only interested in her talents and only brokered her through Bill. She would have been mad, flared up, took a week to cool off, and came back to him. He should have had the guts to do the right thing, and she had the right to be mad.

Sheila

If I remember correctly, the night they did the deed, Bill had just saved her life, and Sookie was at odds with conflicting emotions, she kinda just ran to him in her flimsy nightie, and it didn’t seem to me there was really a moment for discussion but I do believe at some point a heads up wouldv’e been the decent thing to do, but exactly how would he have gone about it? Hey Sookie, now that we have taken this to another level- I have to be honest and say ” In the beginning I was only here cause QSA made me….But now I think I love you a lot…Sookie has already proven she has a short fuse at times, and he probally would’ve blown the big moment. And….He wouldv’e drove her to Eric because she would’ve seen that as yet another betrayal, and they were already on shakey ground in the honesty department if I remember correctly.

Sheila

Hi Antonio, Maybe QSA couldn’t or didn’t want to tip her hand just yet because she was involved with Sookie’s cousin Hadley, and perhaps she did not want to worry their was a link between the two, that Hadley would be able to warn her somehow what was comming. Perhaps QSA is feeling in danger of loosing her queen-dom and wants an ace in the hole as they say. Maybe she wants to use Sookie the same way Eric does.(Probably) Although I don’t like how Bill has devolved, I do believe he was sent to obtain Sookie for QSA but decided he wanted this woman for himself. He was intriuged by Sookie because in the beginning she did not want his blood, but she helped him, and in turn she could not read his thoughts and not have to work 24/7 to get some peace and quiet in her head. I mean, pardon the expression, being a Vamp has shown to be a “cut throat” deal and it seems like everybody keeps trying to steal the toys outta everybody elses sandbox, but I am off track for a second, if QSA had given Bill an order or put in in a way that let Sookie get wind of the fact that she was a pawn in a bigger game for somebody else’s amusement, knowing Sookie like we do now, Do you really think she woulda just said “Ok” I’m already at Eric’s disposal, I’ll just go over here and get further tangled up in Vamp Stuff” I don’t think it’s gonna be simple as all that for QSA when it comes to Sookie. JMHO

Elise

But don’t you think that if he loved her, he would have at least told her why he ended up in Bon Temps before he slept with her? It would have been the honorable thing to do.

Antonio

regarding QSA by the way, Something puzzles me. Viewers of the Show are lead to believe that Bill Compton was sent to Bon Temps to “procure” Sookie Stackhouse for Sophie-Ann.
Now, I found it to be odd that QSA Never checked up on Bill’s progress or had him spyed on..to monitor his mission.

Bill visits QSA in S2 to ask her how to get rid of Maryann. At No point does she seem upset or angry with Bill. You’d think that if she sent him to learn all about Sookie and procure this gal for her,That she would at least ask about it! ” So, Bill..How’s it coming?” “Did you aquire her yet For me as I told you?” Why is it she Never asks This??
She Could have threatened him “Bring me the girl or I’ll have Your fangs!” How is it that Bill can purposely disregard a direct order from the queen with No consequences??
Was it Because Bill fell in love with her that he felt he could disobey an order from QSA

On The Other Hand, I Do think that Bill was as fascinated with Sookie as she was with him! He could sense that there was something “different” about her..Which is why he kept asking “What Are You?” Her response “I’m a waitress” was less than satisfactory. He wanted to know What she was and WHY she was So Different! Sookie had some nerve,too! Most gals would have taken Bill’s order,Brought him the glass of wine ,Maybe made Some small talk and went about Their buissness!
I’m Sure Bill was taken aback to see a Human come to his aid the way Sookie did! Bill just could Not understand her! He couldnt get a “read” on her Anymore than she could on him!
“Aren’t You Afraid to be out here,alone,With a hungry vampire?”
Most gals wouldnt have even put themselves in That situation!
I Still say that their initial attraction was magic…lightning in a bottle! He agreed to meet her Gran and visit with Her Family.
Surely,He could have abducted her That very night and taken her back to QSA! He didnt Do That!
I think that Bill wanted So Much to reconnect with his humanity that he maybe felt that Sookie made him feel Real again!
However,There was No denying that he Was a Vampire!
I guess i can understand Why he didnt turn her over to QSA.
But Why didnt She Do Anything about it??
In S2, She even says to Bill “I look forward to meeting her.”
instead of “Bring her to Me,Now!”

With regards to S4. What will be the Queen’s part?
Will she go after Sookie,Now that she knows Bill wont deliver her?
Will Hadley be in this new season?
As for Her and Alcide, Let me just say that something throws a wet blanket on their chance for Love…Not to mention that kook Debbie!

Antonio

Bravo,Elise! What a wonderfully well expressed post!

mich

Not sure it i’ve mentioned this “a few times”… i’m only on book 5 so please please try to be alittle more passive on book talk. thanks- Good night all my TB land peeps.. signing off from farmington NY xoxox

Elise

Well, I just finally finished the last book, Dead in the Family, and if the writer would choose my ideal path for Sookie, it would be her that would become Pam’s sister. 🙂 She is so much like her in that book, its like a different Sookie. Everything that we are complaining about Sookie’s personality from the series, which is also in the first 3 books, changes completely in the 4th book. By the last book, she is AWESOME. She changes from a victim to a defender, a fighter. And for those of you who have read the books, (I don’t want to spoil it for the rest of you so I’ll by cryptic) the part where she brings the knife into Fangtasia to give to Eric and Pam hugs her before she goes into Eric’s office – she knows what she is about to do and she welcomes her into her family. I loved it!

jaxx

I’m with you Elise. I couldn’t put up with that behavior either. Does Pam have a sister?? LOL. I’d be her sister.

jaxx

Melody, when Eric confronted Bill in front of Sookie about the Rattrays, Sookie asked Bill if it was true and he acknowledged that it was true. Bill set her up to be beaten and then saved by him. It’s at the very end of the last episode.

I just think Bill could have gotten the information he needed from Sookie in a kinder/gentler way considering Sookie did save his life the night before. And, he knew the queen wanted her alive so he HAD to save her. He couldn’t bring back a dead Sookie for the queen. All the rest is history.

jaxx

Elise, ALL are welcome here to play, so Welcome. We bicker and argue but try to do it with respect as well. Some love Bill, some love Eric. It’s all good. 🙂

mich

Ya lost me now Elise, I am such a vampire lover and i would love to be one, and as they say, walk a mile in my shoes. I now agree w melody, he really DIDN’T have to have the living shit kicked out of her and yeah i do understand he didn’t love her THEN but ya cant have it both ways, and as far as sookies concerned ,,,, quite frankly i dont think she deserves EITHER of them, she plays just as many games as they do because she knows she holds all the cards.. and talk about excuses!!!! she drank their blood blah blah blah… THEN STOP DRINKING IT lol. she loves it AND the drama. Bill and Eric are great in 2 completely different ways, all in how you like your men, quite frankly, i LIKE em vampire so BRING IT!! So now that i read melody’s post i’m mad at Bill again lmfao!! As far as Eric is concerned, i cant be mad at him, he’s never HID the fact that he’s a manipulative ass hole and does whatever it takes to get what he wants, that he’s made VERY clear. Bill gives up too easy, she rescinds Eric and he’s floating outside her window!! now come on damn it! Fight for what you want, there’s no rules in the game of love! as for your REAL life experience, i wouldn’t kicked em BOTH in the Calhuns so HIGH FIVE with ya there sista! But i’m in vampire land, it’s not that easy when ya love a vamp!

Elise

I got what you are saying, Melody but nope, not me. This is probably my Russian personality speaking, but I’d kick him out as soon as I’d hear this information, and I’d send Eric into the same direction, because he knew of it and therefore was somehow involved. Let see him try and deny it, from outside my doorway. In the end of Season 3, if I was her, I’d kick them both out and advise them to start dating each other, because they would have more luck that way then trying to get me to forgive either one of them. Its not my job to sit there and forgive them their weaknesses and compulsions, and understand their power struggles. Excuses don’t move me. I still got manipulated, used, and lied to. All the whole Queen/Eric made me do it excuse means is that it can happen again. They’d be lucky that I wasn’t a vampire, or they’d get more then kicked out. She drank blood from both of them and they are both messing with her head. I had a man I was dating once lie to me/trick me when I was 19, and I found out about it from his best friend who wanted to date me and thought he’d break us up (very similar scenario). Not only did I break up with him, I took revenge, and purposely ruined his oldest friendship because I knew that’s what he valued the most, and I’d do it again. Why? Because I actually had feelings for him. And he had an excuse too, which he told me some time later. I know, I’m heartless, vengeful and ruthless. I’d make a great vampire. 🙂

Isis Nocturne

Melody, you just mentioned my #1 issue with True Blood… Sookie is so flighty! It really bugs me, because I look at scenes like the one where she’s defending Eric to Bill right after having been furious with Eric for chaining her up in the dungeon, and they just make no sense to me!

Melody

One more time…..
The only thing we know for sure about the Bill/Sookie beginning is that he was ordered by the queen to seduce her and find out everything he could find out. He did not love her at the time, so it was no big deal to him. The only one who says he had the Rattrays beat her is Eric…that wasn’t in the book and I won’t believe it till season 4 expands on it, maybe. So, if you say he shouldn’t have done what the queen said because “he was her boyfriend”…he wasn’t at the time. He was a stranger. THEN he fell in love with her and hadn’t told her because he feared losing her. That is his only sin.
He has tried over and over to keep her safe. Heck, he got out of his hidey-hole to save her in the daylight when Renee’ was trying to kill her. He almost died. He genuinely loves Sookie and he is trying with everything he has not to lose her to Eric. Eric is using his power, his control, and tricks to get Sook to want him. Including breaking her heart into little pieces because HE decided she should know…..was it hurting her not knowing? Was Bill bad for Sookie so Eric had to save her from him? No. Not at all. He was pissed because he got cemented by a younger vampire, so time to tell Sookie and break them up and oh by the way, break her heart and pull the rug out from under her.
The one and only thing bad that Bill ever did to her was in the absolute beginning, of which he had NO choice. And then after he loved her he was afraid to tell her but he loved her and showed her how much over and over….
He’s not perfect, they keep showing us what a hard time he is having being vampire, trying to be human. Truthfully, I’m beginning to like him better than Sookie, she’s so wishy washy, throw him out, ask him in, don’t give him a chance to explain anything, just take Eric’s word for everything….what? Would you do that if faced with that news? Not me….I’d want a blow by blow explanation. BUT !! It’s a freakin show, I have to keep reminding myself.
Mich, move over, I’m joining you. lol….

mich

Hey Isis, thanks, i will check it out, i’m always up for free. this is a fun site and i have to say sorry for my bitchiness a few weeks ago, bad part of my life at that point, you just happend to catch the brunt of it. this is a great site and i love everyone on here, it’s the only one i have ever seen w out drama… thanks again

Isis Nocturne

Mich, that’s why TrueBloodNet occasionally does book contests. 🙂 Yeah, they’re for other series, but they’re all really good and help fill the void while we await Season 4. There’s actually a new book contest going on now. You can find that here, so please feel free to enter. After all, it’s a free book if you win! 😉

mich

Hey Elise… you are far from the invasive one lol, i’m the newbe here and thank god everyones dealing with my emotions and italian personality, and anyone whos just like Pam is welcome in MY book!! lol.. yeah sook cant have the vamp life, and i’m a sun freak too, HOWEVER>>> have you seen eric naked lol, i’m give the sun AND the moon lol… hey the were’s arent half bad either so i guess i’d have to keep the moon.. i DO feel like i know half the people here, it’s so weird we’re like our own little F’D up family living here in Barney land full of Vamps, Were’s, Fae’s, ,, speaking of, i’m so cnfused where AB’s gonna go because in the book sookie doesnt even know what she is yet even going into book 5, so i’m just gonna follow the series, still reading, slowly, book 5 and i will keep going untill june because i’m going nuts w out TB… why cant it be all year long like the soaps??? HEY>>>> maybe they need more cast to do it all year… anyone up for it?? lol

Isis Nocturne

Please don’t feel that way Elise! We welcome all newcomers here, and I’m sure I’m not the only one who appreciates having new commenters here! Personally, I love reading everyone’s opinions (even though most differ from my own) because it allows me to see how True Blood affects fans besides myself. 🙂

Yes, I think you’re right about Sookie and Bill and Eric. However, in AB’s world, who knows what will happen. I got blasted a long time ago for posting an editorial about one thing that I think could be a possibility in the True Blood universe so that Sookie could possibly have a human baby with a vampire. (Please note that I truly do not go for that “halfling” stuff from Twilight.) I believe my argument for it in the editorial was based on how advanced science would have to be in the True Blood world for the Tru:Blood drink to even be available…

Anyways, I’m with you. I’d rather be a vampire myself. I don’t have Pam’s personality, but I’d like to live through centuries of human history and experience it first hand. 🙂

Elise

Wow, sounds like you guys have known each other for a while, I feel like I just invaded your space. Trust me, it was not my intent to insert myself into anything, I just finished reading the books and I have seen the show and I guess I just wanted to discuss it with people who liked it as much as I do. Eric vs. Bill – its ever going to stop, lol. In the end, its almost like this animal Alpha male thing, they are both fighting for the same woman like two roosters, and of course, neither truly deserves her. One manipulates better then the other, that’s all. Hey, to the victor go the spoils. I mean, really, Sookie can’t end up with either of them, she likes the sun, she wants a family, a husband, children – this is not the life for her, so I can infer from that they are manipulating her emotions. Now, me – lol, I think I’d enjoy a vampire lifestyle, hypothetically speaking. I think I have Pam’s personality.

mich

Sweet, i’ll make us all “true blood crew” bottle cap jewelry!! with the website on it lol… think Isis would want a cut? just kiddin Isis, i’ll advertise for free!!

mich

Hey Jaxx… ya know what,?? i guess I never looked at it that way.. you’re right in every aspect of what you said, i cant even argue it lol… now what? I am so confused on where i’m hoping this will go, i just dont know anymore, again, all in AB’s hands… woo hoo everyday is a day closer!

jaxx

Of course Mich, we’ll all good here. Old and new, we all get along. We’ll all be the 2011 crew. LOL. 🙂

mich

lmao Melody, So I AM NOT impartial lol… and omg i so forgot about the bill and sam THING, thank god it didnt happen , i mean gay people dont bother me, as a matter of fact they’re some of the coolest people i know however…. lets not push it when it comes to those two lol. Now i wanted to DIE when Eric was behind , whatshisface, like he was gonna ,,,, well ya know, then he staked him. My mouth could not drop any further to the floor!! All i have to say is HATS OFF TO YOU AB!!! ya got me on that one. this guy rocks! That was the only scene i think i cried too, not because i was sad, but because that’s MY ERIC!! OMG, that was my fav episode! I keep reading about “the old crew”…. can i be now lol??? the new crew entering the old? i promise i AM cool enough, tell em Melody!! :0x

jaxx

mich, I agree that Bill had to follow the instructions of his superiors, but I think he was to use his discretion as to how to accomplish this mission. I don’t think he had to let Sookie get almost beaten to death to then have to save her life. I think Bill could have gone about “procuring” Sookie or gaining her trust in a different way. The argument is not so much that Bill had to follow directions, it’s more about how he went about following the directions that’s troublesome to me. No doubt he fell in love with her and her with him, but as Sookie said herself, Bill manipulated her into loving him. Not good. The difference is that Eric was not Sookie’s boyfriend/lover and Bill was. You would expect different behavior from Bill, her boyfriend, who loves her than from Eric who was not involved with Sookie but has learned to care for and respect her as time goes on. I guess we’ll have to see where S4 takes us with Bill, Eric, Sookie and Alcide. No matter what, it should prove to be interesting. 🙂

Melody

Mich…here here!! I could not have said it better myself. Bill has been forced to do most of what he has done. First by the queen, then by Eric’s manipulating and tricking Sook to take his blood. No matter what Eric does to get Sook, he’s given a pass. So Bill tries to cement Eric….hey, no big deal, Eric was out in like 20 seconds….not much of an attempted murder. 😉

jaxx

Hello Sandy, nice to hear from you again. I think we’ll hear from a lot of the “old crew” once it starts getting closer to S4.

Melody

All this talk about shower scenes, I just thought of the one we ALMOST had with Bill and Sam…..then luckily (and just in time) Sam woke up!! Thank goodness!
I’m sure this “Bill vs Eric” thing will continue with every season. And then add Alcide into the equation……oh boy, talk about tall, dark and handsome…..he makes Bill and Eric almost look feminine….I’ll bet you can SMELL testosterone on him……yum.

Sandy

Hi Jaxx and Trubie crew
Wanted to drop in and say hello ~ still around, still getting email updates and will probably post much more once the show is back on for season 4.
It’s been moving along swiftly thus far – it’s already 2011 so Happy New Year everyone here @ TBnet.com Mwah.
Much love
cheers
sandy

Elise

Well said, Antonio! That is exactly how I see the situation. Both Bill and Eric are going through a period of emotional instability and turmoil. But watching Bill disintegrate everything that we’ve been seeing him as is almost painful, it creates such a feeling of treachery. I could barely contain my disgust with the character by he final episode. Yes, AMAZING acting, he gave life and complexity to the role. Of course, emotional instability and confusion are very human qualities, just immature qualities. Perhaps Bill did achieve what he wanted, he is acting human. He is just not displaying the human qualities we like?

mich

Hey Antonio

I have to say , as an AVID eric Lover , I dont feel Bill did ANYTHING unjustifiable at ANY point. He HAD to follow the directions of everyone around him, right down to Eric, so I’d say yeah, i’d be alittle frustratd too. He could never be his own man, there was always SOMEONE to answer too. So i dont believe he was Deseptive (forigive my spelling, it SUCKS!!) at all, he was doind what a vamp does, and that’s follow an order. Unfortunatley he’s at the botttom of the totem pole. I wish people would give him a break,( yes, melody , i know, NOT REAL lol) But even tho i love eric and bill is really nothing to me, my heart aches for him… i dont need to say why, anyone who knows the story line , and is a Bill fan knows why…. thanks for listening to someone as confused as Bill right now, I love ERIC damn it!!

Antonio

I must admit I was a bit shocked to see Bill devolve into what he’d become..a liar and a conniver! Bill manipulating and wheeling and dealing with Russel ove cigars and brandy? Saying he wanted Lorena staked? Trying to destroy Eric and ordering Pam to be killed? This certainly was Not the Bill Compton I thought i came to know! It seemed to me,That Bill became what he despised most! His struggle to reconnect with his humanity seemed to be stripped from him! He’d devolved into a more feral vampire. When Bill Did go back for Sookie,It was a Big mistake because He unknowingly led Russell right to Her! Neither Bill Nor Eric seemed smooth and assured this year. I will say that i was Very moved by Stephen’s performance as Bill this year. Watch the scene where Lorena follows him into his room and castigates him…just asking for trouble! Watch Stephen’s expression when hes shaking and confronting her about all that he lost! Hes playing 2 emotional registers against each other…Hes Angry and yet hes broken up,Too! Wow! He despises her and yet he cannot believe how cruel she is being to him! He screams because he cannot believe hes regressing into what he despises most!
I didnt like it,though when he made Jason cry~~yelling at him the way he did! Hes just So Angry! Hes disturbed emotionally and hes sick inside that hes lost his Sook-ehh..its quite sad really. I laughed though when Alcide growled at Bill. Sookie would have probably died without Bill’s blood.
Its funny how even though Bill and Eric are vampires there is still some fractured humanity in there. I dont blame Sookie for throwing them Both off her porch. They were Both deceptive and manipulative. Its obvious Bill Does care for her,But, I cant blame her for being disillusioned and heartbroken when Eric told her the truth about her beloved Bill. It was like AB pulled the rug out from under Us..the viewers,as well as Sookie!
All of the characters from Sam To Tara To Sookie even Bill & Eric went through a meltdown of sorts. It Now seems that Alcide may be the ONLY one she could trust…if She remembers him or Anything that happened…she may have amnesia? AB likes to change it up! I agree, If AB followed the books implicitly, then We would know exactly what would happen,By going his own way,he makes it fresh and exciting! Now,it looks like the “gloves are off” and Bill and Eric will fight each other or try to outsmart each other for Sookie…Can hardly wait to see that!! In S4, There may be a Quadrangle Bill-Sookie-Eric,Alcide?
Wouldnt she have been better off if she just dated Sam??

Antonio

I didnt care for the Arlene-Terry storyline..Nor Did i care for the Jason-Crystal Storyline. I really dont like where they went with Sam! They show a dubious past and a darker side? Not to mention I did not like the whole bit with the Mickens…and the dog fight scene. Jessica and Hoyt are always a good storyline and it was nice to see Laffy find a love interest. Joe,Theo and Denis All did a Great Job acting their respective characters!
Mariana Klaveno Was terrific as Lorena! That barn scene Alone between Her and Bill should get them an Emmy each! Denis O Hare should Also Get 1 or at least be nominated! Its cool now that Alcide will be in the series more. He was a more prominent figure in the books! Pam is also featured more in the books. Hope we get to see her more!

mich

I dont know what i think anymore about this amnesia thing… has anyone looked further on the internet and found anything? At first i was like, ok really? now i’m thinking it’s the only thing that makes sense, look how much AB has changed from the book (for the better)and that part of the book was HUGE and i cant see AB going any other way but to put it in the ol “AB” switch up. I’m sure it’d be a blast to come up with a whole new story line like sook having amnesia. Holy shit i cant even began to imagine how that’d play out… And as far as the fae thing, the fae queen, i guess i never thought of that power over sook’s mind. And to think i thought i new EVERYTHING!!! my husband would never believe it lol… getting nervous about season 4, i can see myself getting really pissed at sookie, and ya know what? cant remember who said all that stuff about how she never even gave bill a chance to explain, she just rescinded, your soooo right, she’s getting to be a spoiled brat cause everyone wants her, and ultimately it’s HER choice, ok ok, im jealous so wat!!! And Melody honey….. i need to get a life too so your not alone. like a husband, 3 kids 70 hours a week work a dog AND college… and i sit and wait for the next post??? and you think YOU need to get a life? i’ll give ya half of mine! Shit, i’ll give it all to ya for 1 hour on with the true blood cast!!

jaxx

Hey Loleaf and Isis, I miss the old gang!!! Hope they come back at least after the Season 4 starts. Oh well, I guess we all have lives. LOL. Yes this topic has been debated and debated and debated before. I also liked Pam and Sookie’s friendship from the books, I hope we get to see some of it this season. The idea of Sookie getting amnesia is growing on me. Look at all the possibilities associated with it. I just hope we have at least one “naked shower scene”. hee hee 😉

Sheila

Hi Caitlin, I hate to state the obvious, but that’s the book, and this is in the brain of AB, and what you are talking about, was Fae magic, not Vamp stuff, But because she is only part Fae, I could see the Amnesia thing happening.

~ Caitlin

Hi jaxx and mich,

Actually, Sookies mind could be sort of glamoroud (or whatever fairies call in in the book) by fae in the book. There was a short story called “Gift Wrapped” in A Touch of Dead where Sookie was glamoured by a faery named Preston because of her grandfather. It is possible that could happen in the show but not definite.

Isis Nocturne

Correct in one, Loleaf! We have had this discussion before. 🙂

loleaf

Hey Jaxx! Weren’t we along with (pbt, Isis, Lizzie, Antonio, and I can’t forget Nia), debating this same thing for the last couple of seasons during the hiatus. LOL.. A good thing never gets old does it! 😉 Great mind and all that. I hope the new writers come up with a way to lead back to some resemblance of the books, not to mention Sookie and Eric’s chemistry and Sookie and Pam’s friendship. They’ve begun to stay off the path in some area’s, pretty soon they will have to completely rewrite Charlaine’s books altogether! Who knows maybe they’ll have bring on Dr. Drew and have a “Love Line Bon Temps style”! 🙂 Hey it could happen!! lol

jaxx

mich, Sookie can’t be glamoured or altered by a vamp. Could it be possible she could be altered by another fae though, especially a queen??? Maybe the queen alone can alter Sookie’s mind and erase her memories. I guess it’s all in what AB wants to do with this storyline.

mich

Ya know, i was thinking, if Sook gets amnisia, that’ll just be too odd concidering she cant be glammored and she cant have HER mind read and she IS a fairy, so would it even be possible to give her amnisia???, i think it’s toooo wayyyy off of who sookie is. Her mind cant be ultered because of who and what she is. just like she cant read claudine’s mind in the books… so if she’s truly a fairy then her mind cannot be ultered if this all plays with the rest of the seasons…. my thought :0)

jaxx

Hey Caitlin, I really like your ideas. Having both Eric and Sookie with amnesia would be a hoot. That would definitely be a twist in the storyline. I think your theory of Queen Mab wiping out Sookie’s memory is a good one. That crossed my mind also but I thought since Sookie is so distraught over her life at the present moment, Claudine may ask Queen Mab to help Sookie out and have her forget everything from the past couple of months to ease her pain for a while and then when she’s strong enough, she would slowly regain her memory. Just my imagine running away with me, I guess. LOL.

~ Caitlin

I still hope Eric is the one to get amnesia but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was Sookie. Maybe Queen Mab will be upset when Claudine brings Sookie to Faeland. Humans are not supposed to know about it because that threatens the faes existence so the queen might erease her memory just a thought. As much as I wnat Eric and Sookie to get together, it might seem like he is taking advantage of her if she has amnesia and they hook up. It would also be interesting if he took care of Sookie. It might not be a bad thing if Sookie is the one to get amnesia. I just don’t know how Eric/Sookie would happen. What if more than one person gets amnesia? May Eric anf Sookie will both get it. Whatever they go with will be interesting. I really hope for a Pam/Eric flashback. I want to know how she convinced Eric to turn her.

I like Tara but I hope she is not vicitimized yet again next season. Give the poor woman a break first her mom, then Maryanne then Franklin. I did enjoy the Franklin storyline though.

jaxx

I’m with you. I’m so glad AB kept Laf. He really does make the show sometimes. I like the addition of Jessica too.

As much as I want Eric to have amnesia, I really think it would be more interesting for Sookie to have it. See how she relates to everyone in her life, Bill, Eric, Sam, Jason, Tara, Pam, etc. Can’t wait for season 4. 🙂

Sheila

Thanks Jaxx. I do realize that both have their faults, but personally when I look at everything over all, At this moment, I would have to say Eric is the Man, but we will see what AB has in store for us.

Melody

Wow, talk about F-n with my head! I haven’t heard that but hey, it would be something AB would do… Perhaps I’m just in a pissy mood, but ya know, if the books went the way this series has gone in some episodes, I’m not so sure I would have been so compelled to continue reading. Mich, I’m with you, I’m so bored with the Tara/her mom/the witch doctor/Eggs drama…and Mary Ann! Dang, don’t get me started on that crap. In my oh so freakin humble opinion, that was so unnecessary and off track.

I don’t really care who gets what this next season….I think every week is gonna be a surprise.

I think it’s interesting that so many of the posters here liked Bill in the beginning and then turned…just an interesting observation. I’m watching season two right now where she throws Bill out because he was fighting Sam and he had left to go get punished for killing Longshadow. He came back, she threw him out, all pissed at him for being gone, rescinded her invitation to him to come in, he begged her not to do it, to listen to why he was gone and what he went through, and her little hot head wouldn’t listen. How immature. She makes me mad sometimes, talk about being a big drama queen. But, I’ll get over it. Keep telling myself, “it’s only a story, it’s only a story. It’s not real life, it’s not real life……” I need a life.

mich

i think if sook has the amnesia we’ll find out alot about all 3… including if sookie only loves bill because she drinks from him and visa versa and same with eric, maybe she’ll pick niether of them. i’m only on book 5 so i dont know much and i prefer to follow the series. even tho the books came first, i feel the series is where my heart is drawn as stupid as that may sound. I hope it’s eric but your right, AB def. likes to switch it up and thats why he’s so good!! if he followed the books then it would never be a suprise and # 2…. lafeyett would be gone if he followed the books so thank god for him!!!!! I am SOOO glad he changes it up or we wouldn’t all be holding our breath waiting each week if we all new what was gonna happen

jaxx

Hoping its Eric but AB likes to change things up so I’m guessing it will be Sookie. That way, Bill will still be in the picture since AB won’t send him to Peru. It’ll be interesting if it is Sookie with the amnesia to see what will happen when Bill tries to win her back. Will she go to him again or will she be attracted to Eric??? Hmmmm. That could prove an interesting twist of events.

mich

omg that would thow me WAYYYY for a loop concidering i have been wait to SEE sook and eric together sextually for so long, and it is going to be terrible if he gets with her only because she cant remember!! THEN i’ll be mad! i’m dying to see the softer side of eric, thank god it’s only a short period of time because i love the jerk in him better, but i think i will be alittle disapointed if the plot changes THAT much.. and omg i hope it follows the books and the whole Tara thing goes away, she’s so over dramatic it drives me crazy, i usually get a snack or head to the bathroom when those Tara parts come on, just over played i think. Cant wait to see what he does with season 4, Best series ever made and i’m recruting non watchers ever day!! Do WE have a vote who gets amnesia??? lol

mich

Ok Jaxx, you just summed up what i’ve been trying to say for 2 months!

Isis Nocturne

Actually, it’s not an uncommon theory. Based on what’s happened so far in True Blood, there’s no sense in Eric having amnesia. Instead, it seems like it could be much more likely that Sookie would get amnesia after she returns from faery-land, especially after everything that’s happened to her in such a short period of time.

Of course, no one knows for sure yet… 😉

Elise

I was reading some posts on another website and people there think that it will be Sookie that will get amnesia in season 4. Is that possible? That would’t even make sense in the story. Has anyone else heard about this?

jaxx

I have to agre with Elise and Sheila. I’ve had this argument before and believe me, it’s not a pretty one. LOL.

I read the books first. I have to admit that in the first 2 books, I was rooting for Bill and Sookie also, but after book 3 and the Lorena revelation and than the real reason why Bill came to BT to begin with, I realized Bill wasn’t what I thought he was either and realized Eric and Sookie is the couple I should be rooting for. And, if you add in the added fact that wasn’t in the books regarding Bill setting Sookie up with the Rattrays, it’s a done deal for me.

Both vamps are cunning, ruthless, manipulative, selfish, etc. That’s what vamps do. And, while in the beginning Eric needed Sookie for “his agenda”, he has learned to respect Sookie and become her friend. Eric is a very loyal person to the people who are loyal to him. He “tests” people to see if he can trust them and how much he can trust them. Eric is very calculating and after 1,000 years, he knows who he can trust and who he cannot. I believe deep down inside Eric knew he could trust Sookie and started to have feelings for her, feelings he’s either never had or hasn’t had in a long time. Once he found out what Bill was really doing in BT and the whole Rattray farce, he set out to expose Bill’s true agenda to Sookie because at this point, even if he is fighting it himself, he cares deeply for Sookie, maybe even loves her at this point, and doesn’t want her to get hurt even further by Bill. Eric doesn’t lie to Sookie. Sookie is on a “need to know” basis with Eric and that’s only because is Sookie knows too much, he can be a target for other vamps or supes too. Once you are in Eric’s confidence, he will protect you until death. That’s what I love about Eric.

I think in S4 we will see Eric exposed, the raw Eric, without the vampire politics, business aspects, just the real Eric. I think Sookie will see that too.

Elise

Yeah, that’s what happening to me too, season 4 is just too far away. I’ve been watching the series and when I realized this winter that I won’t get to see season 4 until the summer and I had my break from school, I put the books on my Kindle and read all 10 books. I read pretty fast, so they were gone in about a week… Yeah, I do like bad boys, and I tend date manipulative seductive men, so Eric is just my type, regardless of hair color. I know, it sounds terrible, but its probably because I am also a seductive manipulative woman who knows how to handle them. 🙂 I actually found it funny, because the book description of Sookie is exactly like me, she is about a size larger then me, but everything else is exactly alike, including her height. I usually prefer men with dark eyes and dark hair as well, I don’t think I ever even dated a blond. I just liked how he manipulated and seduced her, I like the way he was trying to get into her head.

Some things about the series are good and are even better then the books, some changes are for the worse. For example, that whole thing about how Eric is avenging his family’s death was really not necessary. I didn’t like that at all. I know he is a character who is very emotional, but he is also a character who is political and controlled, and it was unwise for him to pull all this off. In politics, the enemy of yesterday could be your ally tomorrow. I also didn’t like how his part in Season 2 was completely butchered. I think the characters of Tara and Lafayette are great. Also, the whole thing with Bill cementing Eric and trying to kill the queen – that was pretty silly. It makes him look completely unhinged. And I don’t like how they married Russell and the Queen. Russell is gay and the Queen prefers women.

I just finished reading Dead in the Family; as you can imagine, I’ve impatiently waited to see what a real relationship would be like between Sookie and Eric, and I was so surprised… Its as if she became a part of their family. I didn’t realize that Pam and Eric are a family, it just never occurred to me, and I thought it was so intense how she joined them. I keep thinking of how Pam hugs her when she realizes that Sookie is about to walk into Eric’s office and give him the knife – that was so meaningful. Such acceptance. Its really so intense, these characters are so powerful, even for all my Bill bashing I have to admit that his attempts to vindicate himself to her after their breakup, his assurances that he loves only her, that he pines for her, made me almost want to hug him. I can’t wait for season 4 because it seems that she does a lot of growing up between books 3 and 4 and she becomes so proactive in her life. I felt that it was that that distanced her from Bill and created a personality that is much more akin to Eric. Anyway, can’t wait what they will do with book 4, that one is for Eric lovers!

mich

Funny Melody, my husband is 5 ft 10 and Indian (native american)Dark hair and his eyes are almost black… hot too i might add, and never dated a blonde either, and OMG yeah BIll comin out of the dirt there’s NO scene that compares to that!! And i thought eric was butt ugly the first season, the second, he got me, dont know why, no clue. Wish i new cause i am getting lost in this series, it scares me, i count down the days, i so live eat and sleep TB it’s pathetic, but i love it, it’s where i wanna be for real!! so jealous of sook it’s sick!

Melody

I’m also so anxious for the next season to begin. I’ve been watching my season 1 &2 dvd’s every chance I get, just to get a daily (sometimes) dose of Bill. I have to admit, physically Mich, I am just not attracted to Eric. I am married to a 6’2 dark haired, dark eyed man. I have never even dated a blond! lol..I am just a real pushover for a tall dark and handsome…. even seeing the back end of Eric when he was boppin that new waitress chick (from Latvia or somewhere, she was chained up…?) I’m just not wowwed by him. I don’t like his new haircut, I like his voice. But I love the way Bill says her name…
And when Bill crawled out of the dirt!! LOL…..wow…..
How sick is that? And he was so dirty…..eeewwwwww….

But Elise, we will never know if Eric would have saved Sook from Longshadow…we can only speculate. I speculate he would not….lol…..and let me guess….you spec he would have! lol…

What I really did not like about this season was all stuff about Maryann….that was just not in any of the books, not allll that.
I got bored with it…And the Tara stuff…enough already. I love all the Jessica storyline, although, again, not in the books. You are correct in that the books didn’t make Eric out to be such an ass…I’m sure the creators want to keep us coming back, so they twist and turn all this to their (and ours, apparently) liking.

Mich, I like bad boys too, only not blond ones.
🙂

mich

OK, I was gone…. i have been reading all of your postings and melody, i still keep coming back to you, you are so awesome in the way you put it out there. we disagree on the bill and eric thing but ONLY because i’m a “bad boy” girl. and as far as all the .. Bill did this but…. and Eric did that but… in reality (and trust me, in my world True blood IS reality for all of you that know me here) they BOTH have their short comings in some way… bill is awesome, he really is, he just got caught up in the wrong “order” from the queen and fell in love in the process… Eric on the other hand, yes a real ass hole , but in the same boat. He’s realizing he CAN love and i believe he will or does or whatever, love her. He’s a jerk about it, but hey what do they say????? all’s fair in love and war? So bring it on season 4!! i’m sooooo ready to see some sook and eric sex i can barely breathe!! I miss bill and sook, but on the other hand it seemed like the same shit every episode with them, rescind, invite, rescind, invite. Just like the soaps, we know she’s gonna cheat and we know someone’s gonna die. I love Bill and Eric both, but i like my men alittle more… let’s say “manly? Bill is sexiest when he’s mad, all the other times he’s just alittle too… how do i say without getting yelled at?? less manly to be safe. And Bill without a shirt? Eric without a shirt? Come on Mel, ya gotta be pickin up what i’m throwin down here honey!! lol. Lets play solely on sexy…. HMMMMMM. your the best tho. . we may agree to disagree on alot but you’re so ME on your views as opposite as they may be sometimes.. you rock. I am seein elise as a close second!! I love everyone on TB, eric is just so ME is all… thanks guys!

Elise

Lol, you are so right, we get so up and arms over these characters as if they are real people. Moreover, I am having such a hard time separating the book version from the TV series. Eric is a much more negative character in the tv series then he is in the book. I suppose they both have done their share of cold terrible things. I think I lay more blame on Bill because he was her boyfriend who was trying to act human. Eric was not attached to her, told her he was only using her, and is pretty comfortable with being a blood sucking violent aggressive, manipulative leader who amuses himself by playing with his subjects. In my view, Bill had certain responsibilities toward Sookie as her boyfriend and lover that Eric didn’t. He actually fought with himself to remain indifferent, he wants to not care. He already has responsibility towards his family, Pam, and that’s where his loyalty lies.

You are probably right, I am probably more attracted to Eric, albeit not to the physical actor. I have studied politics, specializing international politics for years, so watching the cruelty of political intrigue for me is instinctive, I react to it very naturally. Yes, Eric is cruel, doesn’t care about humans, violent, manipulative – he represents the actors that I see in international politics today. Honestly, if I would be permitted to analyze Eric’s reactions to the Long Shadow attempting to kill her from my personal experience in politics, I’d think that he would have reacted and stopped him, but chose not to, because he knew Bill would, and he also knew that Bill would be punished for it. That would be the perfect political play. After all, if Bill wouldn’t have pounced, Eric would have made it in time anyway. So, it was a win-win for him. Stalin used to say “when one person dies, its a tragedy, when a million die, its a statistic.” Eric doesn’t enjoy humiliating Bill. Eric is merely amused at how attached he is to Sookie. He doesn’t understand it, he abandoned his humanity and enjoys being a vampire. Really, after 170 years, maybe Bill could too. Eric does have something to loose, he just hasn’t realized it. His heart…

Having said that, I can tell you honestly that for the first season, I was a complete Bill fan. For the second, I was interested in Eric’s behavior, because of how cunning but intelligent it was (manipulation takes skill) and because there was a complexity to the Eric character that was interesting and that I wanted to see develop. But I still thought that Bill was a healthier choice for her, and she should remain with him. Season 3 was my turning point. When I watched Bill’s talk with Lorena, I felt dirty, but I could see forgiving him. When I listened to him talk to the king, I got suspicious but I still clung to him. When they started to talk about the papers on Sookie in his house, I realized that I need to step back and stop supporting a character that obviously I didn’t really know. See, the truth is, Eric didn’t betray her when he didn’t protect her from Long Shadow or when he manipulated her with the bullets, he owed her no allegiance. Honestly, who the hell is she in the beginning for him to fret over? Some human that will die from old age as he blinks. Eric was bad because he didn’t care and had no humanity and manipulated her, but Bill – Bill made me feel betrayed along with her. He kept apologizing tearfully as every episode she learned about a new lie. Eventually, when he started telling her about the Queen and his job, I realized that we all have no idea who Bill really is. A man’s actions define him. What actions has he been practicing for all these years as a vampire that make him so repentant? What was he like before he met Sookie, with the Queen, alone, with Lorena? Who is he? Honestly, I love the idea of them having sex, and I got a sick kick out of them doing it, and then cleaning up all that blood. But what do I know about him besides his Southern manners and that he is good in bed? What are we saying, that Eric is so violent and blood thirsty, but Bill isn’t? Whom does she love? Does she actually know Bill enough to love him? I understand that Eric is some-what doing this too, but he is not dating her. He is busy running his “serfdom.” He owns her nothing.

Melody

It’s humorous how involved and defensive we get over these characters, isn’t it? I mean, do you think they are on websites defending us?? lol….I get it though, its hard not to get involved, they really drag us in with these story lines….

I think the Bill bashers are more phsically attracted to Eric and the Eric bashers are all about Bill’s good looks. We all have our own particulars, and we can debate who did what and why and what are their intentions and who is better, n all that forever…

It doesn’t matter I guess that Eric was going to let Longshadow drain Sookie? He just stood there folks, with Pam, watching the whole thing go down….does he care about her? mmmmm, no, doesn’t seem to ….. Eric is just so much more honorable than Bill because he didn’t lie to her in the beginning. Does everyone forget conveniently that Bill has to do what his elders tell him to do? And that is Lorena, the Queen, and Eric and anyone else…
he started out to do what the queen told him to do, he has paid for it over and over by saving her life, by loving her, by risking his own life….did honorable Eric have to send him off to get punished for killing Longshadow, no, he told Bill straight up that he didn’t even look into it whether it was necessary or not…..but he did anyway to get Bill out of the picture possibly. He loves to admonish, humiliate, punish Bill anyway her can…can’t he win Sookie over on his own?? Does he have to get Bill out of the way to do it? Would oh-so-straight-up Eric be so straight up if he had anything to lose, like Bill does,(he never wanted to lose her after he fell inlove with her so THATS why he didn’t tell her the truth)…..Eric has all the power over Bill because he’s so freakin ancient and decrepit. Yeah, I don’t think I want to chose a raping, pillaging, crude Viking over a Civil War soldier who told Lorena NO when she wanted to have sex with him that night she turned him…he just wanted to go back home to his wife and kids. But, hey, that’s just me… I think Sookie sees the good in Bill, and in Eric (now that he tricked her into taking his blood…hmmmmm, a rather desperate act by such a “viking” (a straight up honest viking..?) wouldn’t you say? Now in Eric she is totally sexually attracted to him because of the blood. In the book, nothing was said about Bill having Sookie beat up by the Ratrays and only having heard Eric say it to Sookie while pissed for being buried in cement, (which was a totally slick move for a lowly 173 year old rookie to overpower a couple thousand year old VIKING) I pretty much don’t believe Eric. And, because this is like a soap opera, she didn’t give Bill a chance to explain anything, it’s all about keeping us hanging…. Yep, the queen told Bill to investigate Sook and do whatever needed to get to know her…he didn’t glamour her, she ran to him because she wanted him, needed him. They love each other….and undoubtedly because of Eric, she and Eric will have lots of sex this coming season. I’ll just have to deal with that….. 😉 And Bill didn’t try to KILL Eric, he knew the cement wouldn’t hold him forever. Eric is 1000 times more cruel than Bill is….he had no problem throwing Bill’s lie right into Sookie’s face, just so he could be in a better light with her, regardless of how much he tore up her heart. Was it his call to determine that she had to know the truth?? I mean, is he the Dr. Phil of Bon Temp? He is all for Eric, and only Eric.
All the Bill bashers can say what they want, really, say how much you love Eric and how you prefer him and how you think he’s so sexy and attractive….that’s cool. He’s not my type. I like Bill’s dark eyes and his voice and the way he whispers “Sookay!”…..yum. But don’t go pinning any medals on Eric for honor and integrity. He’s a conniver, a con man, arrogant, bloodthirsty, and an egomaniac from another century. Cool.
And what’s really cool and keeps me in good spirits when I read what some people like to make up and keep harping on is that, hey, in real life, Sookie married Bill. Sooooo, Eric is all yours…. Sookie prefers Bill just like I do…..

Elise

First of all, in the finale of Season 3, Bill tries to kill both Eric and Pam. He goes to Sookies house and tells her he had accomplished this because he wants to keep the knowledge of her fae blood a secret. Eric appears behind him, however, and reveals to Sookie that he let the drainers beat her up, yes, until her spine was broken, so that she would have no choice but to drink his blood. At this point Sookie, completely distraught but the yet another revelation on Bill (after Lorena, after the fact that he knew about the powers of her blood but kept it from her until she was drained in Fangtasia by Eric and Russell, after she learns that the Queen also was interested in her for that reason and he knew about that but, being such a good guy, chose to keep that from her) decides finally that she had enough of his lies and rescinds her invitation. I never said that he paid the drainers to beat her. Its obvious that he knew they would attack her to retaliate and he let them do it because it was convenient for him. I don’t think he asked them to do it, but he willingly allowed it to happen, and made sure she was hurt enough to have to drink from him. That meant he saw them trying to ambush her, watch her come out, watch them beat her until her spine was broken, and then intervened. I’m sure that if it wasn’t for them, he’d find another way. When I said that he took her virginity, I only meant that he was her first, not that he took it by force.

If you think about it, both Bill and Eric manipulated Sookie to drink their blood. However, what Bill did is much worse. Bill manipulated her to do it because he was retrieving her for the Queen. He watch her getting beat up until she was almost dead to make sure she would have no other choice. The only reason she was outside is was because she was waiting for him. The Queen would have kidnapped her, kept her prisoner, and used her until she would have been drained completely. Eric, on the other hand, tricked her into drinking his blood (she wasn’t hurt; he lied to her to get to do it, and she thought she was helping him.) In his mind, it was a mind trick, and she lost. He did so because he wanted to get closer to her, because he was intrigued and fascinated by her, and, being a vampire, he saw no problem with getting to know her better this way. He didn’t do it because he wanted her blood, or because he was procuring her for his superior.
My biggest personal problem with Bill isn’t just the constant lying – she had a lot more patience with him then I would have – its the emotional immaturity. Seriously, a man is over a 170 years old, yet he is still emotionally conflicted, jealous, possessive and insecure. I mean, can we at least be honest with ourselves – did Bill really wanted to kill Eric because he was a danger to Sookie? Guys, at this point, do you think he was a danger? Do you really think Eric would hurt Sookie at this point? At this point, Eric was only a threat to Bill, as a suitor. So, if that’s not the case, what is the real reason he’s tried to kill him? a. Eric would have told her how Bill has been slime all along.(and does) b. Of course, if she leaves him, Eric can’t have her, he must be killed, and she must stay his.(very mature Bill) When I saw him killing Eric, that’s when I knew that Bill’s white horse time was over permanently. A real man would have been able to live with the competition. Unless you guys think that its sweet if your ex-boyfriend kills all your potential suitors?

Isis Nocturne

Elise, not true. Bill had Sookie take his blood because she was so injured. Her spine was broken after the Rattray incident, and had Bill not healed her, at the very least Sookie would have been paralyzed.

Also, how is what Eric did to create the bond between himself and Sookie not lying? He knew that even though he was injured by silver that he would heal. He took advantage of Sookie by not telling her the truth, and at the same time, he forced a bond with her.

Isis Nocturne

There are a few inaccuracies in your post, Sheila. Bill did not pay anyone to attack Sookie. He didn’t take her virginity either. She willingly gave it to him. And so far, there is still NO proof that Bill used Sookie for personal gains in True Blood. Please remember that the books and the show are two separate entities. 🙂

Elise

I think you are right, Sheila. I just finished reading the books and the TV series has been messing with my mind a bit. Yeah, I agree, I can’t stand liars and Bill is just that. Bill had her take his blood so that he could take her to the Queen, Eric did it to get close to her. I can’t wait for season 4. We should see lots of romantic passionate connection between them. My only regret is that the directors did such a poor job building a friendship between Eric and Sookie so it would be difficult for them to build a solid connection come season 4. Still, I’m going to stay positive!

Sheila

Hi Elsie, you almost had me agree with you all the way down the line except for a few things. If you look back through the series you will see that Eric did not make Sookie go look for Godric, In fact she told Eric she would help him any time he asked, and so off she went. Yes, Eric is Sheriff of Area 5, and he is the man with a plan to be sure, but again, even at Bill’s warning she jumped in both feet, went into the Fellowship of the Sun with what’s his name, to spy and learn what she could to find Godric. And I don’t agree that Eric made her take the bullets out, I think that she was just Naive and Eric just used that to his advantage because he can’t Glamor her, that has already been established in S1. But I have said it before and I will say it again, I will take Eric and his brutal honesty any day over Bill’s Deception. Yes, I did like Bill in the beginning, but I would rather somebody be man enough to let me know where things stand then to pull my heart strings, take my virginity, try to use me for personal gains while lying to me, and pay somebody be beat me lifeless, only to come in looking like the hero, to turn around and kill them just so I would hopefully trust you, Nope, give me the Viking. At least, What you see is what you get, he may not divulge everything off the top, his position won’t allow that, but in the end he does fess up to her, and he is honest about who he is, what he wants, and he makes it very clear that he will get what he wants. Gotta love the determination!

Elise

Personally, I think the stuff that Bill did is far worse then the stuff Eric did. I think that entire love part of Bill is a façade, something that he wants to be, but I don’t think he even understands what love is. Love is not saying it over and over again, its proving it with your actions. I think the reason I’m so antagonistic about Bill is because he is a liar. He is incredibly secretive, he never discloses any information to Sookie about the vampire world, his life, his responsibilities, he lied to her why he is in her town, how he met her, why he met her. Think about it: its not that he just met her under pretense; on the first night, people tried to torture and kill him, and she saved him. He offered her his blood, but she refused. The night after, he purposely stayed away, watching two people brutally beat her until she was near death, so that he could force her to drink his blood. What kind of a person, who is looking for his humanity, watches the woman who saved him the night before get pounded, so that he can further his agenda? He betrayed her with Lorena – yes, I think he has to man up to that. She put herself in serious danger in Mississippi, trying to save him, and he makes that disgusting phone call with Lorena in the background. And what exactly has Bill risked for her? What has he done for her that is contrary to his own agenda? Do you really think he was trying to kill Eric in the end of season 3 because he just didn’t want anyone to know about her blood? Really? Eric has had her blood already and he didn’t go berserk, and the only reason she was able to save Bill in the first place was because he assisted her, with Alcide, with support, checking on her time and time again. Do you really think that Eric would hurt her? Or, perhaps, he just realized that she is not taking him back after his second transgression and decided that Eric shouldn’t either? Interesting how Eric helped her save Bill even though that was against his interests, while Bill couldn’t even let Eric live. I am extremely suspicious of Bills protection of Sookie, its clingy and obsessive and it reeks of jealousy and mistrust. I think that Bill has a façade of a nice guy, but that this façade is cracking to show us a liar, a habitual manipulator. He holds a certain position in the vampire world, he has certain responsibilities – does she even know who he is? Oh, yeah, he did take her virginity and told her that he loved her, and killed two humans after they beat her and drunk their blood – drinking them must have been such a sacrifice. And giving her blood – he enjoys that, that’s no sacrifice either.

Eric’s biggest flaw, if you think that’s a flaw, is his brutal honesty. His view is, I want to do her, so he tells her that, very explicitly. Why does that make him the bad guy? That makes him better then men who manipulate women into thinking they want something more. He gives this outer appearance of being ruthless and relishes his power, but that shell continues to crack. Its not just Sookie; its how he protects Pam. He values his relationships deeply, and his behavior in season 3 shows how he takes responsibility for people in his life. His job is to find Godrick, and he sends her to Dallas, forces her to do so. Well, Eric is not her boyfriend, he is a leader, a sheriff of Area 5, and Godrick is his family. He sends her because he is trying to save his family member, and he owes her nothing. He also follows her to Dallas to protect her. He did make her take out the bullets and made her drink his blood, but that only leveled him with Bill. Again, immediately afterwards she finds out about it. It takes her two seasons to find that out about Bill, and, again, from Eric. He chains Lafaette below, but then explains to her that if another vampire caught him, he would have been dead, while he choses to keep him locked up for 4 months. Eric follow the vampire laws, and by those laws he is loyal and trustworthy. Bill doesn’t like to tell the truth. Bill treats her like a puppy, but Eric, somehow, treats her like an adult and an equal. He levels with her, tells her what he really thinks, explains things about the werewolves, possibly hatching up some difficult history. Have we forgotten who it was that drunk her blood, walked out into the sun, and handcuffed Russell to himself to protect her? Where was Bill? Watching him? Planning his demise just in case he survives?

Isis Nocturne

I completely understand Sheila. Believe me. 🙂

Sheila

Sorry Isis, I get carried away sometimes, I have tried some of the other sites but this one is the best by far.

Sheila

We told you. Have you read all the books to date? Dead in the Family? Pretty awesome stuff. I think I may cry when she decides to end the series.

Melody

I get what you mean Elise. But, because I read all the books in a row in the last couple months, and then got the season 1 n 2 dvd’s, and THEN got HBO and watched the series 3 on demand, I’ve found it kind of hard to differentiate and keep up with which Bill and Eric I’m thinking of ! lol…..I don’t like how they’ve had Sookie throw Bill out and the attraction she is feeling for Eric, without giving Bill any chance at all to explain WHY he lied, why he did what the queen told him to do, how much he loves her now and has tried so hard to protect her.
Annnnnd, how about all the nasty stuff Eric has done? Okay, so he cried for his maker when he died (the real death) so does that make him all of a sudden expunged from all the crap he’s done? Iknow, I know, he’s all sexy and all that, and most people just love him, but I really prefer Bill and his protectiveness and the way he absolutely cherishes Sookie. He lied in the beginning…..okay. So? Is that worst thing he’s done? Yep.
Eric is using his age and his position to castigate Bill….real nice guy. He threw Sookie’s heart under the bus by telling her the truth…he knows Bill loves her now, was it necessary to tell her the truth? Just for is own sake, so she will turn to him …and hate Bill. I hope it doesn’t go that way….I’ll be pretty disappointed in Sookie if she is that shallow…not to give Bill a chance to express how he feels…and realize he HAD to do what the queen says, just like he has to obey Eric.
Okay, I think I’ve said enough! lol…

Elise

Eric vengeful of Bill? He couldn’t give a damn about Bill. He does want to steal Sookie away, but he is so arrogant that he is patiently seducing her, he thinks its inevitable that she will come to him. Bill to him is like an annoying fly. I don’t like them introducing that, it makes Eric look weak.

Antonio

Season 3 of True Blood was about a “Meltdown” charcters were seen Devolving and Breaking Down. Bill was Still trying to hold on to his humanity….Something for which Lorena castigated him for. Now, It seems That which Bill So Desperately fought to hold onto has been taken from him. He has devolved into what he despised Most! Eric,Sam,Tara and Jason and Sookie Also experienced a Meltdown of sorts!
This Season Was about Who Can You Trust? I think that the writers did That Very Well! IF Bill is NOT what She thought him to be,Then What? Where does She Go from There?? This will set up Something unique….Sookie On Her Own! Surely, She will have some time to Re-evaluate her life with Bill and a possible hookup with Eric. I’m sure there will Also be a growing attraction with Alcide as well…Will His dark-side be revealed Next year? Who knows?
I think Sookie needs to realize that she needs to grow up and toughen up She doesnt Need to depend on a Man(Supe or Not) to be happy and fulfilled. She needs to feel good about Her Own self Without Bill or maybe even Eric! Perhaps Quinn will be introduced before S4 is over? One can Only wait and see

Lacey

book four is by far my favorite book..
possibly because eric is my favorite character? 🙂
great book…

i hope the season will have this sookie-eric relationship

no more sook-bill, im tired of it

KS Rose

Hello Mich,
We appreciate your enthusiasm and love of True Blood but ask that you not blithely throw around terms like ‘Nazi’. I’m not saying you can’t ever discuss Nazi’s but please refrain from calling anyone who hasn’t killed people based on their religion or nationality such terms on this site. It’s offensive.

Also, I would like to point out that you’ve asked the author of this article, who obviously works for our site, to go away and leave your site alone. I really do appreciate that you like our site that much, but we would be much the poorer without Isis’s contributions. She was doing her job in enforcing our comment policy.

That said, we may alter the comment policy to allow more off-topic conversation since we’ve closed the forums. Thank you for your enthusiasm and support, but please temper your comments with a bit of kindness.

mich

ok sheila,,,, you ARE so right, that was NOT a good time to tell me that by any means, just got done reading the shower scene!!! Are you serious? send me the link and have i mentioned i’m Italian and get whatever i want??? and lemme tell ya, i love a challenge!! come on, your in the running now with Melody as my favorite on here lol…. you guys rock for putting up with me. and i AM playing with my kids while i read too before CPS shows up lol

Sheila

Okay, so now is probally not the time to mention that there are always contests for that sort of thing Huh? Look through the related links that come up with the TB stuff on here and you should see them. Have Fun. I here there is a cute room in the Psyche Ward with Barney and Baby Bop wall paper for extra entertainment!

mich

lol are u kidding me? everyone who HAS brought up another book is comparing and ruling that NO ONE is better then true blood so whats the problem exactly? last i knew we could speak freely AND this is a fun place to post with everyone that feels the same so stop being the true blood [police] [Edited by K. Rose for offensiveness] and if you dont like the posts (notice there is no one else complaining but you) there are other sites. there’s always gotta be ONE of you that ruin a great time and have to pick a fight. Consider yourself ignored from this point on. thank you and i’m sorry you dont like OUR site! We love true blood and if you’ll notice from all my posts it’s my life and nothing on here is bashing OR putting Tb BELOW ANYONE ELSE! now stop gawd!!!

mich

OMG OMG OMG OMG !!!!! to all my peeps who convinced me to keep reading OMFG!!!! Just got done (litteraly) with the shower scene!! do i say thank you ??? or maybe i’ll just send my husband on to thank you later lol. OMG!! that was amazing, i had to se tthe book down (obviously) when they were finished and i’m scared to start reading again OMG!!! i wish i could make that O M G bigger!!great . i just went from barnet land to a padded cell now! MELODY>>>>> i dont know whether to love or hate you at this point lol.

Isis Nocturne

Hey everyone, just a quick reminder to stay on topic when posting please! If you guys want to talk about the books, please do so on book posts. Please and thank you! 🙂

mich

sheila,.,, god help me!! I swear i’m ready to admit myself to the psych ward. there is SERIOUSLY something wrong with me. LMFAO, i wanna believe these people exists and they need my help!!! And by the way,,, i could’ve kicked lorena’s butt too!! but then again, me and sook would be BFF’s in real life, ok,,,, theres the key word ya’ll…. REAL LIFE!! ok, the only thing that could help me is to meet the cast in person, if anyone cares lol. And MAYBE a short roll in the series… is that too much to ask?

Sheila

LOL, Girl I thought I was bad, Keep reading. Book 4 is probally my favorite book.

mich

as long as he goes back, i wanna hug him,, i feel so bad. now’s sook’s chance to be the aggressor wtf is she waiting for… they have to have at it eventually!! i have to keep stop reading because i get so involved and i need a reality check (which a 2 yr and 5 yr old brings me back to earth quick) but i get aggravated cause i would do things so different. omg michelle, it’s a book, not real … SOMEONE SLAP ME!!k lol, back to reading

Melody

Yeah Mich, he stays a puppy for a while. He’s a little easier to handle as a pup. It’s a good book, have fun!

mich

ok got my 4th book. i’m dying, i cant wait for eric to be back to eric!! Not likeing this amnesia thing so far, he’s like a puppy and i want the… omg pin me on the wall… eric back. hope fully soon. i’m to the part where pam just left sookie to watch him till they get the witches stuff straightened around… gonna start reading agian in a few… where’s this shower scene? does he have amnesia when this happens
//???? i guess i’ll go read on lol….

mich

Just a family xmas party lol… we dont care what anyone thinks of us… looking at what we look like you’d never guess lol. My sister lives in michigan, but as for us, not even close lol, Farmington, NY !! near rochester if that helps any. we still have season 3 on demand thank god. i work nights and sometimes the lady i take care of doesn’t sleep so that’s my book time! working 3 16 hour night/days so cant get to get my books till thurs i’m dyin!! men just dont get it. all that mushy fang horse shit like we do. and hell, my husband is learning, play along and humor me, the time we DO spend together in bed is worth the weeks wait!! all over a freakin vamp series really? and i cant even finish watching the twilight series i wanna puke now thinking about the pasty white kids faces…. vamps should be men! and weigh more then 140 pounds soaking wet… and the wolves on there? please!! Jacob, grow a set of hairy wolf balls and realize the fang will always rise above baby!! night darlin, tty tomarrow!!!!!!!!!

Melody

Was this a Costume Christmas party?????? lol…(husband wonders why I am laughing at the puter)….(cant explain to him, he just wont get it)
Anywaaay, I am from Ohio….I’m thinking you are from …uh, Michigan?
I notice HBO took season 3 on demand off the list. So, I have to have some light surgery tomorrow and I’m going to milk it for the day and watch my season one and two dvd’s….
You are right, I’m sure son will thank me…that’s why husband says he watches it, for all the residual “benefits”….!
Hey, have fun reading, you will be glad you did!

mich

Hey Diana, I’ll work on getting my redneck hunk of a manly husband to put his comments on here if i can. He’s a die hard fan and hates when i make him admitt it!! So if anyone wants to ask Corey (my husband) any questions lol….. ask away cant guarentee he’ll answer, i may have to answer for him!!

mich

OMG i’m rollin here… i DID get my mother, who is 60, watching TB and trust me, not only was she introduced to TB, but from there had to be plastic and batteries if your pickin up what i’m layin down!!! AND my step mother too (62yrs) so dont be afraid to introduce away. My husband has always been a very jealous man, however, we now have our own little game…. I am now sssssooooie lol and he’s my maker… eric lol. He says ” you can call me eric while your….. well you can fill in the rest. so your son may THANK you for introducing her to tb LOL. my husband loves the show too as much as he hates to admitt it, redneck lol. We went to our family xmas party with me in my duck one piece PJ’s w erics face hanging from my zipper, and My husband wearing a shirt that says ” I love sookie stackhouse but dont tell my wife”!!!! yes, our families think we’ve lost our minds and i’m begenning to wonder myself lol…. where are you from?

Melody

Mich, you have me laughing so hard! Damn girl…you are so right, vampires don’t sparkle, they disintegrate for Heaven’s sake! Just watch season 3 and see how Eric and Russell “sparkle” in the daylight!! lol….and yes I also thought the Twilight series was the end all of vampire lore, but not so, not since I discovered Charlaine Harris and Sookie. “Ssssssoookie”..that’s how Bill says it……yum.
I have no friends or family with whom I can watch this other than husband. They would all think I was a slut with all the sex scenes. (Apparently I have very prudish friends and family)
The only one who I know would enjoy it is my daughter in law, but how awful would that be of me to introduce MY SON’S WIFE to all the hunks in TB?? There is something very disloyal and sick about a mom and her daughter in law slobbering over other guys on TV while her son (and dil’s husband!) is at work…..ya think??? lol….Anyway, get back there, get the books and read during the night when you are supposed to be sleeping… 😉

diana posey

i would be interested in more male comments. i know theyre watchin

mich

thanks so much, i read the first 2, then found out the books were actually a series (2 yrs ago) so i got hbo on demand and watched seasons 1 and 2 within a week and just stopped reading cause i’ve been watchin it on hbo ever since, now i’m hearing how great the books are and i’m having withdrawls i need to start reading again. i’m watching season 3 for the 3rd time on demand, how pathetic!! working full time, nursing student, 3 kids, a husband and a dog really? time for TB? omg yes, that is my down, or should i say UP time!! thanks for the list. they have 6 of them at walmart…. i’ll git r done! you guys all rock thanks

~ Caitlin

Hi Mich,

Heres the order of the books if you need the list. I think the order is listed in book. Target has the books for $6.00 and Kmart sells them for $5.00 I think.

1.)Dead Until Dark
2.)Living Dead in Dallas
3.)Club Dead
4.)Dead to the World (one of my favorites)
5.)Dead as a Doornail
6.)Definitely Dead
7.)All Together Dead (This one was interesting)
8.)From Dead to Worse
9.)Dead and Gone (I think you will really like some of that book)
10.)Dead in the Family
11.)Dead Reckoning (comes out in May!)

Yes, TB is addicting your not alone. I’m not ussually addicted to shows but TB changed that. Enjoy the books.

mich

Thank god my husband plays alond with my obsession and knows i love him or he’d of divorced me by now, not sure i’ll ever grow up. I DO love my husband more then TB, i just had to say it out loud lmfao… just in case he reads this lol

mich

Ok Melody… I didn’t buy the book because I wanted to ask all you guys which one starts first, and now i’m kickin myself because it was IN MY CART!!! Now i have to go back grrrrr…. i want to get my gf De on here she’s an alcide freak too and he is soooo hot, however i dont know what it is about eric and the fang!! all started with twilight, omg how high school that was when i found TB!! now anyone who says “twilight is the best movie omg” (talking like a valley girl lol) I have to laugh when thhey say they’ve never seen TB!! I almost get mad, that’s how retarded i am… dont tell me twilight rocks because true blood would kick all thier ass’s and omg…. VAMPIRES DONT SPARKLE!!!

Amber

I LOVE TRUE BLOOD cant what till the new seasion starts.:D

Melody

Mich, okay, so by my estimation, you bought the book about 2 1/2 hours ago, so how far are you into it???? lol…..You are not alone. I have all the books and am now re-reading them. Mostly because I cant live without some Bill/Sookie/Eric drama in my life daily, and because the TB series is quite off the books in my opinion, so I have to keep going back to see what really went on…the library option is a good one. I did that for the first book and then went to Wallmart for the rest of them, bought them in bulk! Husband watches with me also, of course all the nudity and sex doesn’t get by him for a minute so I don’t think he’s all that into the plot as much as he is the “sex”. Alcide….just, yum yum yum….he is just too hot for words. BUT, I am still loyal to Bill… so, have fun, enjoy the amnesia. It’s really hard to put it down once you start.

mich

So i went to walmart today to try and find the book that ended season 3 and starts season 4…. i think i found it but not sure, anyone wanna clue me in? THE closest i came was to the one where eric is walking down the street naked… is that the one that is starting season 4? HELP!! thanks again for all your help everyone, gonna start reading as sooon as i find out wich book to start with

wanner

im wonder if AB change to sookie be the one who lost her memory…LOL

Sheila

I know what you mean, you’re not the only TB junkie. My honey is pure beefecake, but believe me when I tell you if he suddenly grew fangs, it would be on and I have made no secret of it He even plays along I used to be a star trek junkie and it was Worf all the way, and if he played along at Halloween I am still not sure who would have more fun, but at the moment, It’s all about the Fang! I have always been a neck girl So rest assured you are not alone. Have fun reading the books, I am sure you’ll have a great time learning all about our favorite Vamps and Supes! I have the whole set, and am waiting for the next two to come out later this year.

jaxx

mich, if you love Eric, I DEFINITELY recommend you keep reading also. You will love DTTW. An Eric lover’s dream and yes the shower scene is hot, hot, hot. I loved all of her books. The 7th and 8th books are especially good with the vampire summit and then there’s the whole fairy war. You will love them. I heard LTD or ABC has the set up to book 8 or 9 for $20 or so. You could also borrow them at your local library to save some hard earned $$. Happy reading.

mich

OMFG I got so many replies to my posts and all of you said i have to keep reading, well there goes the bank , heading to walmart to get the rest darn it!! Melody… i have to say we are one in the same in so many ways!! On demand we got just for true blood too, we can barely afford freakin bread but god forbid if i dont have that foreplay to watch “on command” lol. This is a great sight, a bunch of freaks just like me and i almost feel human again knowing i’m not alone. Ok, time to be real ya’ll,,, i cry at the end of every one i watch !!! Really? ok beat that. why do i cry? because i love the freakin show so much, cry and clap lol. grow up !! I haven’t read as far as the amnesia thing, now i’m dying to know what you guys are talking about… Alcide????? one of ya brought him up to me, and yeah, who wouldn’t think he’s hot!! my bff claims him and i’m a straight up fangbanger… he’s smokin but missin the fangs. And dont get me wrong, my husbands hot,,,totally satisfied with every aspect of my marriage in every way, but wtf, TB is barney land for me. and thanks for all of you responding, i could live for waiting for responses just knowing they’re all regarding TB!! Anyone go on you tube? go there and type in eric northman taking a shower lmfao…. then type in what ever your imagination brings you, they have it, all TB stuff you wouldn’t believe!

Chocoberrysrtcake

OOooo you mean the scene when he slipps in the shower with Sookie after he loses his memory?…*sighs*…Eric:)

I am a total groupie over him…..so sad.

Chocoberrysrtcake

You have got to continue reading, the books and different from the show. I have to say, I am happy I read the books because it allows me to have a double dose of pleasure:D

I hope they bring Quinn in….*drools*…

oOOo and Alexander Skarsgard is the perfect Eric for moi!

Melody

HA! Well, okay, let her bang Eric till she cant walk anymore, but then, go back to Bill ! lol…..just bang everyone….and especially, if we’re just banging for the heck of it, how about ALCIDE?? omg….I mean, when he came into the picture i almost choked on my popcorn while husband thought it was just the popcorn!! lol….He is one be-a-u-tiful hunk of a man….wow….that bod and those eyes…..damn. My husband loves the series also. I read the books one right after the other and then husband bought me the series 1 and 2 for a bday present in Nov and we found out series 3 is on HBO demand, we signed up for it……I cannot wait for series 4. And what makes me happy even if Sookie doesn’t end up with Bill is that Anna married Steven Moyer in real life, so yeah, I’m okay with that…..and yes, I need to get a life and come back to reality. I even asked my husband the other day how great it would be to be a vampire ! yikes!! I’m losin it…..lol but I love it.!

Melody

Oh, you need to keep reading! Especially if you are an Eric fan. I’ve read them all and I’m sooo ready for the next one. I, personally, love the books more than the series. But, I still love the series. Have you read where Eric has amnesia from the witches? You need to read that, they get together….ALOT! YOu’ll love it.

Sheila

No, you are not the only one, but you should keep reading. It does get better without a doubt, I am already waiting for May when the next book comes out. But I have issues, Either way Sookie is one lucky girl, look at all the hot guys who want her attentions.

mich

ok…. WHEN IS THIS??? I”M DYIN!! watched erics scene on youtube but not together

mich

melody,(

Ok, i’m with ya as far as being WAY to overopinionated cause i’m with ya!! I’m so rediculous, at 37, married, 3 kids, this stupid show is my life lol. and as far as eric is concerned who cares what the funk is about him, he’s smokin and sook’s stupid not to bang the shit out of him no matter what his intetions lol. i feel they are sencere’r (i know, not a word lol) then we thnk, and he DOES love her and she’s stupid,,,, not that bils not sexy as hell, OMG, ok this is rediculous, it’s fake and i just read what i wrote you… LMFAO I NEED A LIFE!!!! thanks for listenin mel!!

mich

first off, i’m a 37yr old married mother of 3, way WAY beyond obbsessed with this series. I mean like, NOT ok obsessed lol. My husband loves the show too,,, funny he’s a master diesel mechanice, redneck , hard working family man… imagine it lol.anyhoo… i starte3d reading the books and made it to the 3rd. however, i started watching on demand, fell in love and never finished the books. Being that I AM erics, now i’m wondering if i should re-start the books hearing Sook ends up with him. They never showed where he beat off on her back!! I was waiting for that for sure lol!! Anyways, i think i may pick up the 4th book because it doesnt look like eric and sook are ever gonna get it on and i need that FIX bad!!! Hope i’m not the only freak on here that wants her husband to say ” I want what is Bill’s” then bite her lol!!– being a “Vampire’s”….. priceless!!

Melody

I don’t understand why everyone loves Eric so much. Sookie has just as much reason to distrust him as she does Bill. I guess it’s because I just find the whole “civil war hero” Bill so much more attractive, and he LOVES Sookie, he’s not just in lust with her. Eric wants her cuz she isn’t easy.
I guess I get pretty intense and opinionated….lol….like maybe I need to get a life. But, I loved the books and I love the series and I so enjoy Lafayette! I would be just fine if they never go into Sam and his family again. I love the whole Jessica and Hoyt thing also….can’t wait till 4 comes out.

jaz

Can not wait for the Sookie Eric shower scene…

sara

I’ve read the books and watched the series. to be honest have to say I kindda prefer the series. i started reading the books bcuz of the series. think its nice that the story lines in the books and series differs in many ways. it wud have been boring if they were exactly the same.

Faith

I read the books first and then started watching the series,,,I love them both equally for what they are and aren’t. They really went in-depth with some of the characters which I appreciate. The fact they kept Lafayette thrills me to death, he is one of my favorites! I’ve added all the books and dvd’s to my collection and hope to add more. Keep ’em coming HBO and Charlaine!!

Sheila

Thanks, I will have to check out the new author. I am always down for new reading material. I didn’t care too much for the whole “Orgy” either. But the series as a whole is awesome. It helps to expand possibilities for further seasons.

kate

I love that the books and series differ in some ways… the whole orgy Tara plot of series 2 bored the hell out of me but generally I think the changes are awesome. Keeps it fresh for the readers out there. Really hope they do the amnesia plot but they can ditch the damn faeries for me. I always found those books to be dull compared to the others Nd I was really hoping the series would drop them entirely. On a separate point have any true blood fans read any Kelley Armstrong? Similar in that they include supes in modern times but they haven’t “come out”. I always hoped someone would serialize them…

michelle

true blood is awesome and it does compare to the books in a good way and bill sucks im so happy in the books she gets with eric and i hope it happens in the show too

Danielle

Are we sure they are even going to include the amnesia parts? They could just have witches just to have them and be interesting.

Either way I am REALLY excited about next season! Bring it on!

Sheila

Hey, I realize that you may know more than some when it comes to the series or the books, but did you ever stop to consider that there might be someone new who is just finding out that they like the books or the show and want to either read or watch, so they can fill in gaps or kill some time till S4. So why would you, who has a chance to be friendly wanna blow it by knockin what this site has taken the time to put out for the enjoyment of all. Yes, I know what has already been stated in the above spoiler, they sometimes repeat. I’ve read all the books and seen all the shows at least 5 times. But I am not gonna be rude and use profanity about it for someone repeating a spoiler. Yes, you are entitled to your opinion, it’s all in the way you say it. Hope it gets better for you.

Chica

CORRECTION.. meant to say.. if i am not mistaken…

Chica

Lizzie.. if I am mistaken..Sookie always professed her love for Bill.. and feeling betrayed by him..ended up turning to Eric in the books. I would have to go back and re-read them because it’s been a while. The show and the books are different but at the same time some of the plots are the same. I think they are doing a great job.. and am very pleased they did not kill Lafayette!! He is the absolute best and is a part of why I love watching the show!! Bring on S4 already!!!

LaceeeDogg :]

i love how they kept Lafayette 🙂 he gives the show pizazz

Aaron

Trueblood is a awsome show evrytime it comes back during the summer i watch it early at 6:00 instead of 9:00 becuase i get so excited to see the show again. And i hope in season 4 eric gets with sookie. I know bill is like her lover and all that shit but i want to see her with eric damet

Sheila

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, that is part of what makes this forum so great, I have read the books because of the series, and think they are both awesome in their own right. I have read that CH loves the direction that AB has been going with her books and besides, if those of us who have read the books knew everything that was gonna happen all the time, it would be pretty boreing. That being said, they say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, CH is a writer, AB took her written word and brought it to life, now everytime I re-read the books between seasons, not only do I see other possible situations and outcomes, I can gain new insights into what I think may happen on the show next season. Hope you continue to enjoy S4 next year.

Alica

The books and the show are completely different. For instance Lafayette is killed off in the second book. I like the series but don’t know why they totally made it completely off script from the book. Only thing they kept was the character names. I am wondering what Charlaine Harris thinks about this. If I was a writer and someone made a series out of my books and completely butchered the plot I’d be pretty pissed off. I don’t see why they couldn’t stick to the same story line as the book series.
That said, True Blood as it’s one show is a great show. I am impressed with the story but it’s on it;s own as a good series not correlating with the books.

sara gamal

i love true blood so mush

Lizzie1701

Agree Presto! I wish he did not do it as well. I want the old Bill back – sexy Bill from S1 or the first half of S3. The Writers were trying to move the plot along and this is how they are doing it. I mean, Sookie suddenly seeing the goodness in Eric and kissing him – just after professing her love for Bill! WTF!! It is so obvious as to what the Writers are doing. The Writers suck, imo, in this regard.

Presto

Hey the books and the show are pretty different. I was hoping in the last episode of season 3 in the last moment ((BIG SPOILER AHEAD DO NOT READ THE REST IF HAVEN’T SEEN SEASON 3!)) that he hadn’t truly waited for the rat ray to near beat him to death. I like the near saint bill he was portrayed compared to book. Well still is compared to book but still… Series is great!

Isis Nocturne

Hi guys,

Jaimie and I posted that because of a specific line we noticed in one comment that was pure conjecture. We just want to prevent any fights, that’s all. It’s not that anyone was being too pushy or anything. 🙂

Lizzie1701

Hi Loleaf – no, you were not pushy??? We are just giving our opinions and standing up for our views and our Vamps! LOL! Life would be boring without these debates!

Nia would like to join it too, but her time is strapped, unfortunately.

Til the next!

loleaf

Hi jaxx and Lizzie..

Regardless of the motive we do know that Bill’s main concern is to keep Sookie safe. That we all can agree on. Now he is trying to destroy everyone that knows about her gifts, because he feels guilty and does love her! Lizzie, I hope that you don’t feel that I was being pushy… Just debating like we always have done here that past couple of years. I guess things have changed since then, I guess I’ll have to reread the policy about commenting before posting opinions here.

jaxx

Lizzie, I agree. Bill will try to win her back so you are right, the romance is not over yet. Season 4 is a long way away yet, I hope we get spoilers soon. They should start filming near the end of this month. YAY!!!!

Lizzie1701

Hi Jaxx.

Good points. Don’t forget that Sookie told Tara (who in turn told Franklin) that it was ‘love at first site’ with Bill (but told Bill he manipulated into her falling in love with him.) I think that means something down the line. That romance is not finished yet, she just needs to know other people so as to improve her own personality.

jaxx

Hi everyone!!! Good discussion and points being made all around from everyone.

I think we’re all forgetting that all three seasons have taken place over a very short period of real time. I know for us viewers it seems like 3 years and even I forget this from time to time. Maybe only about 2-3 months and I’m saying this based on Arlene’s sonogram where the Dr. said she was about 10 weeks pregnant and it’s with Rene’s baby back from S1. Season 2 was only about a 2 week duration and then season 3 followed immediately afterwards. Sookie has not know these vamps all that long then. She was with Bill then only about 3 months and has known Eric a little less. Sookie is building relationships with all these characters: Bill, Eric, Pam, Jessica, Russell, etc. She really doesn’t know them as well as we think she does. She thought she knew Bill inside and out, finds out she doesn’t and there were a lot of secrets there all along. She is building a relationship with Eric and Pam and Jess at this point. How many times do you get the wrong impression of someone at first and then learn you were wrong as time goes on? I think Sookie is now learning about her first impressions with both Bill and Eric and Pam and they are starting to reverse. The more she gets to know Eric on a personal level, the more she will start to see she got a wrong first impression and she’s already painstakingly learned that about Bill. Same with Pam. I think in S4, Pam and Sookie will get closer.

I also hope to learn more about Eric’s and Bill’s history. That would certainly explain a lot.

No I don’t think Bill set up the Rattrays to beat Sookie to near death, but the disturbing point is that he let it go that far to begin with. He wanted to gain her confidence to trust him to find out what she was, but I think he could have stepped in a little sooner than he did. She was attracted to Bill at first sight but also she was attracted to the first vampire she had ever met in her life, so that also should be counted as a factor. If any other vamp walked in that bar, I think she would have been intrigued also, i.e., Pam, Eric, Franklin. Bill’s good looks was just the icing on the cake for her. She knows she is different from other humans, so I think the idea of meeting a vamp, who is also different, was appealing to her. She said she waited 2 years after the vamps came out to meet one, any one of them would have done at that point, it just happened to be a handsome Bill Compton.

Lizzie1701

Loleaf,

We do not know how long Bill was waiting when the Ratts beat up Sookie. Also, it appears Sam may have witnessed it as well as I am sure he was the dog. I guess we will see next year as all is not as it seems.

Also, Sookie only noticed Eric at Fangtasia because she was reading that poor sod’s mind who was idolising Eric and got a kick on the head for his troubles. She then noticed Eric sitting on his throne of arrogance!!! I don’t think she had any feelings for Eric at that time. Remember, she and Bill were holding hands tightly and when Eric tried to poach Sookie of Bill, Bill said that Sookie was his and Sookie also said that she was. I don’t think she had any romantic notions – just curiosity. Look at how she and Bill flirted in the car and if that policeman did not turn up, we would have gotten a very sexy kiss! JMO.

Sheila

Yes, I would have to agree, seeing Eric running anywhere Naked, that has to be a delicious sight to see. I guess, we will just have to wait to see what AB has in store for us next season. Until then, I’ve got some reading and writing to keep me busy.

Isis Nocturne

Hey everyone, just a quick reminder…

I know that we’re all making points based upon True Blood in the discussion, but a few of the points discussed have been using opinions to further them. Please try not to do that — We really do love the participation, but we’d like to prevent anything that could turn into a war. 🙂

Thanks!

Jaimie Dalton

Hi everyone, thanks so much for your participation in the discussion. Just a friendly reminder that when you are making a point and using examples from the show – please do not use your opinion to continue that point. We love the ongoing discussion we just want to be sure to follow the comment guidelines 🙂

~ Caitlin

I do not think that Bill arranged the Rattrays attack on Sookie. However, he did stand by and watch them beat Sookie within an inch of her life so that he could give her his blood. Also, I think Bill knew that Rattrays were up to something when he was with them in Merlottes. Bill is an intelligent guy after all. Sookie told him not to go any where. I think he was testing Sookie.

Pam is the one who brought Bill up to the Magister. It was a dire situation. It would have been unwise of Eric not to go along with his progeny. He was trying to buy her more time. I can’t blame him for that. Bill was missing so he was a good cover. Bill also sold Eric put to the king so they were even for that. Like loleaf said, Eric was willing to sacrifice himself for Godric and Sookie. After the ordeal, Eric asked Sookie if she was okay. I do think bringing Lorena to Dallas was a low blow. However, it was only a matter of time before she came back into Bill’s life. I don’t think Eric knew how pyschotic Lorena was. Bill is also capable of hitting below the belt. He did try to kill Eric and Pam.

loleaf

Hi Lizzie.. Yes she did notice Bill a first, because she’d been waiting to see a vamp for a while, and in walks one into Merlotte’s. Curiosity of not being able to read his mind maybe, or just the pure fact that he is hot (being a virgin, who wouldn’t dream of him)!! Either could be a good guess.. 😉 But if he was waiting to see if she could protect herself.. why wait until she’s beaten nearly to death before he intervened! They wailed on her for a while and with such severity that the only way to heal her was to give her his blood. You know what they say curiosity killed the cat.. and almost Sookie for that matter.

You also have to remember that Sookie had almost the same reaction to seeing Eric the first time a Fangtasia that she had with seeing Bill at Merlotte’s..
I do remember Eric’s reaction to hearing Godric’s name at the hotel, but he was also listening quite intently when Barry said that he had a message from Sookie first. Yes, the head jerk came with Godric’s name, but he knew Sookie’s life was on the line, and that she was doing all of this for a vamp that she’s never met. For a breather that show’s him that she’s as protective a he is, and to do it for him, he wouldn’t have let anything happen to her. Hence wanting to trade himself for her to Newlin.

God.. I’ve forgotten how fun this was… 😀 and only 7 1/2 months to go!! LOL!

sheila

Welcome, and enjoy S3. It’s Awesome.

Semiramis

Hello Sheila,
I don’t think Bill “arranged” to have Sookie beaten up by the Ratts. Apparently (and I say this because I am still not convinced that it’s true because Alan Ball said something about nothing being like it seems, and I am an optimist) he did not step in to save her soon enough, so he could get his blood into her.
We have already seen examples of Eric’s lies. He lied to the Magister about who was selling vampire blood. He brought Lorena to Dallas, and I can hardly wait until he gets his comeuppance for that one. He also did the dirty on Bill for not stepping in to stop Longshadow from killing Sookie and arranged to take Bill to the tribunal for doing it. I’m not saying Bill is perfect, don’t get me wrong. But Eric is definitely not “brutally honest,” he is self-serving, as I would expect any decent vampire to be, LOL.

Rex Marc

I am from South Africa & season 3 has only began here, we’re on episode 3… What I have seen so far I am really glad HBO has approved the go ahead for season 4!!! I cant wait 🙂

Lizzie1701

Loleaf,

Eric only made a move at the Dallas Hotel AFTER Barry said Godric’s name. He did not flinch when Barry said Sookie.

You forget! Sookie noticed Bill straight away when he first walked into Merlottes and the second time. She had her first dream of Bill BEFORE she had Bill’s blood. She had to have Eric’s blood before she had a dream of him. So, she was VERY ATTRACTED to BILL PRIOR to any blood exchange!

Also, it was quite obvious that Sookie was attracted to Bill – everyone noticed at Merlottes! Bill knew it as well, so I don’t think he needed to get his blood into Sookie by way of the Ratt’s beating – come on! All he had to do was wait it out because I think Sookie was hot to trot! IMO, Bill, after seeing her deal with the Ratts ie chain, when he arrived to meet Sookie, I think waited to see if she used her powers to deal with the Ratts but when she did not, came in for the kill. Look at this face and listen to his voice when he urged her to drink – TO SAVE HER LIFE! When it was obvious Sookie could not save herself, Bill was worried and did the only sensible thing – to give her blood to save her. It was all about the power that interested Bill. As AB said in the video – all is not as it seems. JMO!

loleaf

My two cents.. lol
We could argue to facts of both keeping things from Sookie:
Yes, Eric didn’t tell her who Godric was, but if he did, it would’ve shown his sensitive side to Sookie. Which he didn’t want that public knowledge hence showing signs of weakness imo. We still don’t know if he rushed in to save Sookie, Godric, or both since he heard both names and rushed in to save rescue them. Since he tried to be noble by offering himself to save Sookie from Newlin. That should give us some insight that he’s not devious as he’s portrayed.

Bill did feed Sookie his blood under suspicious circumstance’s. Then telling her that side effects would be raising libido, keener senses, and him finding her fast. But leaving out that she would feel sexually attracted to him… hum wonder why.
But he did clue her in on many facts about vampires that she didn’t know, hence giving her knowledge on how to protect herself. Yes, he does feel guilty for not telling her the true reason he was there we all can see that. But if he was there to attain her under false pretences and then fell for her after he fed from her, how do we know that Sookie’s fairy blood didn’t cause that reaction in him. After all Queen SA told Eric not to taste her or he would fall in love with her too. Coincidence..I think not imo.
IMO both are alike in ways..making neither angels. Yeah their our angels with dirty wings maybe, both showing good and mischievous sides. But to each their own and we only see the good in our choice of each man/vamp. That’s why we come here day in and day out, to rally the troops for the upcoming season, which ever side those troops may be on. 😉

Jana

Damn, i forgot. I was reading along and saw Summer, and than eight months and i was like what, but summer is only in like december. Haha, whoops, America, not Australia. I had a hate love feeling for the end of S3. Everyones going on about Sookie and her love triangle. But what i really want to know is, whats going on with lala, tara, sam and that wiccan lady. How are their characters going to play out.

~ Caitlin

I agree with you jaxx. The Rattrays situation was just sick and inexcusable. I don’t even like to think about that. However, I guess I can understand Bill not telling Sookie about his involvement with QSA because she probably would punished him for it. QSA is a little off the hinges. However, if Sookie confronts Eric with something he eventually tells her the truth and does not try to deny what he has done.

jaxx

I guess you have to look at the individual circumstances and weigh whether Sookie should have been told or not or to what extent would Sookie get hurt. Yes, Eric didn’t divulge everything in Dallas and there were consequences to that, but Sookie was told of the risks and went anyway. She made that choice herself. This is the difference. Sookie did not have a choice in what Bill did with the Rattrays by having someone beaten to almost certain death so you can come in and be the hero and save her. This far outweighs the Dallas incident in my book. While it has been said by Amy Burley and Jason about “not divulging equalling lying”, there is a very fine line there, jimo. Yep, we could argue this all day. LOL. 🙂

lizzie1701

Hi Jaxx, Isis and Sheila,

My three cents worth is that Not telling and lying in these instances are the same – both are for protecting and both could get Sookie into trouble. ie Eric did not tell her the whole truth about Dallas and it almost got her raped or possibly killed. Jaxx, you said that Eric would not tell Sookie stuff because it was Vampire stuff, yet Bill has been criticised manay times because he failed to divulge Vampire stuff like Sookie never knew about the hiarachy of Vamps or that there were Queens and Kings – remember she felt stupid when KRE had dig at her for not knowing much after she queried that there was a Queen? Eric, by not divulging to her, is just as bad.

As you all have said, we could argue all day! LOL!

sheila

I agree with you both. We will just have to wait and see. Thanks as always for the imput to ponder till S4. Till next thought…..

jaxx

Hi Sheila and Isis. Just my 2 cents.

We could argue all day about the “What Ifs”. Why would Bill tell Sookie the truth if he were getting away with it up until his cover was blown? He knew what would happen and didn’t want it to happen. So just in my opinion, he never would have told her. But it’s just my opinion and I don’t know that for certain.

We could argue about “protection methods” for Sookie all day also. Bill has his ways of “protecting” Sookie (which I don’t agree with) and so does Eric. Eric’s way of protecting Sookie, imo, is to tell her things on a “need to know basis”. To me, that is not lying to her since the less she knows the better in most circumstances involving vampires and not knowing is his way of “protecting”.

Isis Nocturne

I guess we’ll have to wait and see. 🙂

sheila

Hi Isis, I do see your point. Yes, even I would have to agree. Maybe Bill would have told her, maybe not, I am running with Not because he would’ve looked really really bad to Sookie at that point, I mean, even Eric had to force Bill to tell her the truth at the end. And this truth was a biggie. He had to admit he arranged for her to get beat up that night only to look like the hero, and put him in her good graces as the savior of the day. Yes, not telling her everything could be considered lying. But perhaphs Eric knowing how Sookie is, or the fact that he is not sure he can completely trust her with some stuff yet, choose not to tell her everything because of Vamp politics or because of the fact that her and Bill were still lovers. My guess is that things will change somewhat in S4 with how Eric treats her now.

Isis Nocturne

But Sheila, could one not make the argument that “not disclosing information until he chooses to” is in many ways the same as lying? Is there any evidence whatsoever that says that Bill was never going to tell Sookie about his original reason for being in Bon Temps?

sheila

Hello to all my fellow TB Junkies. I have a theory as to why Sookie keeps her word to Eric, and has blown off Bill so to speak, If you look at it like this, Bill has lied to Sookie, more than once. For whatever reason, he has lied to her. Although she had tried to over look it. In her heart she struggles with it. Eric is who he is, he does not really try to hide that fact. He is Brutally honest with Sookie when the time is right for him to be. He does not disclose info until he chooses to, he keeps it close to the vest so to speak, but he and Sookie have some level of understanding if you will. Eric is Eric take it or leave it, he will be there for her and eventually he will win. That’s how I see it anyway. Bill has decieved her too many times and given her the ultimate betrayal. How could Sookie possibly even trust him again.? Her and Eric seem to have an understanding of sorts, and if you think about it, He has kept his word to her. JMHO

~ Caitlin

Sookie is just as stubborn and strong willed as Eric sometimes. She didn’t listen to Eric or Alcide when they said that the Nazi weres were dangerous she just ignored them. Eric knew Sookie wouldn’t listen to him that is part of the reason that he sent Alcide with her. Also, he chained her up because he knew she wouldn’t listen. I still think they might skip ahead a couple months next season or start the show on that night and then skip ahead. The way AB ended last season makes that possible with Sookie and Tara leaving. I still think Eric will be the one to have amnesia. The amnesia storyline could continue to affect Eric down the road and maybe even future seasons.

Isis Nocturne

That’s a really great point, Loleaf. I’m not sure what it means at all.

loleaf

Another thing that I was wondering about. Sookie gives her word to Eric and sticks to it without any second thought. As she did to save Godric. But she also gave her word to Bill that she would stay a Lafayette’s when he went to see the queen, but left going back on her word to him. What c o u l d that mean! Hum any thoughts?

jaxx

Good analogy Loleaf!! I agree. Sookie is no ordinary human. Eric knows there is something special about her, even on their first meeting. She is brave and that’s a quality that is attractive to him. She is like no other human, which we find out, she is more than human. Sookie is loyal to those who are loyal to her, Eric has the same quality. Sookie is brave and fearless (although at times she should have been fearful), Eric is brave and fearless as well. Caitlin, you are right, Sookie did stand up to Eric and that appealed to him right away. He found her bravery amusing in a breather and therefore attractive. lol. I personally still think they are a good fit for each other, but we will just have to wait and see. **SHOWER SCENE PLEASE** **wink, wink**

~ Caitlin

Hi loleaf,

I do agree with you. Yes, I think Sookie and Eric do have similarities. They are both very loyal people and so I think that also attracted him to her. Eric saw how loyal she was to Lala and other people. She showed her loyalty to him again and again by keeping her word. I never thought of the warrior thing but you are right Sookie is like a warrior. I also think Eric liked that Sookie stood up to him when they first met. People don’t usually stand up to Eric. I do think Sookie stands up to Eric more than Bill. I think that they are more equal. Eric/Sookie have more of a battle of the sexes situation. Also, I think Eric likes Lala to an extent (as much as he can like a human) because they are like in some ways. Personally, I enjoyed the scene when Eric came to Lala defense. He even tried to give him some useful advice.

loleaf

I agree Caitlin! They have to give us Eric/Sookie romantics our bit of fun also…. can’t they ***praying to the TB gods***! 😉 LOL
Besides I for one believe that Sookie and Eric are pretty much level playing fields. By that I mean that Sookie is just as ruthless as Eric is when it come to the fierce protectiveness she feels when it comes to Jason or anyone else she cares for, as Eric is with Pam. Nothing can stop her…like nothing could keep Eric from saving Pam. Sookie is a warrior in Eric’s eye’s and that’s what peaked his interest. Like when he first met her at Fangtasia, she came there with no care about her own safety to ask questions to save her brothers life. I believe from then on she peaked his interest with her protective warrior mentality, that he once shown to his men before he himself became a vampire. But that’s just how I see them.. Any thoughts?

~ Caitlin

A lot of fans would be ticked off if the story was drastically changed. The fans do have to be taken into consideration. Hopefully, us Eric/Sookie fans get at least a little bit of what we want. Eric/Sookie relationship is a big part of the books. That shower scene did seems as though they were sticking it to Eric/Sookie fans a little bit. Thats just my opinion. I do understand that they need to slowly build the Eric/Sookie relationship. Actually, Eric was in more of season two than he was in the books. That was a plus. I think it’s a good thing that Eric came off more ruthless in the beginning because he is 1,000 year old viking/vamp.

loleaf

I’m right there with ya Jaxx!! It seems that we’ve had our bubbles burst alot lately, where it comes to Eric/Sookie storyline. Even our infamous shower scene was changed to our dismay! Now if it does happen between E/S it will be overshadowed by the B/S scene.
Hopefully we will still have gracious plenty ***winking at you and Rose***!! 😉 But it all remains to be seen..AB said that he is sticking with the fundamentals of the books, can’t see him veering so far away from the S/E storyline to where he would have to completely rewrite the upcoming seasons to continue. Which would be unfair all the Eric lovers IMO!! I’m sure our debates will be heating up the closer season 4 gets that’s for sure!! 😉

~ Caitlin

Hi everyone,

Seasons two and three were a lot different from the books so I’m sure this next season will be no different. I’ll probably be disappointed in some things so I’m going to try not to get my hopes up with the storyline. I think some things will be better than the books though. Some people are speculating that Sookie might even be the one to get amnesia. If that is the case, I don’t see how she and Eric will get together. I’m all for them changing things but I think there is nothing wrong with leaving some things the same. I just hope they don’t try to cram as many storylines into the show in season four. Then some of the main characters get put on the back burner. This season Jessica could have been used more. It would be nice if Arlenes “little teaccup humans” make an appearance next season. Their so funny. Actually, I think Eric has more respect for children than adult humans because their more honest and less corrupted.

Have a happy Halloween!

jaxx

LOL Loleaft, *winking* right back at ya!!

Happy Halloween everyone. All the vamps got to be loving today. It’s their favorite holiday 🙂

jaxx

I’m with you Loleaf (waves hi) and Rose. I love my viking and want to see what I’ve read, but AB has a way of bursting my bubble sometimes. lol. 🙂

Loleaf

Hi amies.. It was one of my favs too!! I liked amnesia Eric and the way be clung to Sookie for protection at first, then moving on to protect her!!! I hope they follow season 4 the way of the book by having Eric be the one with amnesia and nobody else. I for one will hunt AB down and shame him if he does.. Lol!!
Eight months and counting.. OMG!!! I will be bald by then.. Lol

Loleaf

Hey Rose we know what you mean, and I agree wholeheartly!! **wink wink**. I just don’t know if AB will go the direction us Eric lovers hope, for a while at least **stomping feet like a toddler not getting her way** lol!! I sooo hope that I’m wrong… want to see this season follow the book with the Sookie/Eric storyline so badly.
Book four was centered around the Sookie/Eric dianamic, unless AB completely changes the whole storyline, but if he does that where would that leave him for the upcoming seasons!!

amies

Yay.. I am so happy that they are keeping with the Book as it is one of my favourites out of the series!!

Loleaf

Hey all how’s it going!! I also hope that AB and staff delve deeper into the backstories of Eric/Pam as well as Eric/Bill.. But it may take a while since there are so many other stories taking place at one time. They are really not leaving enough time to properly explore those dianamics properly IMO. Not that I’m saying that I wouldn’t/don’t like seeing the other characters, I’d just like to explore the backstories a little more without interuptions.. I know I know shame on me Lol!! It all boils down to seeing more of our georgous Viking and southern gentleman without comercial interuptions ****wink wink****!!!

Oh and btw. Happy halloween all!!!!!! Have a safe one..

Kettle

Oh, I really disagree! Sookie’s eyes are open now, and she is on the road to owning her power. Why would we want her lose all this knowledge, be plunged back into ignorance, and then have to relearn everything? We’ve already walked that path,you know?

I do agree that AB is an evil little monkey and out to subvert our expectations! But he would have to be crazy to forgo *hott* Eric/Sookie action, and I doubt HBO execs would let him, even if he wanted to.

Rose

I still want to see my Viking running down the road half naked, with amnesia, in Sookies bed and her shower. There is a gracious plenty to look forward to…if you know what I mean.

jaxx

Hi Caitlin,

I agree. I really hope we see Pam and Eric’s back story too. I’d like to see how she knew Eric was a vampire and how she went about seeking him out. Can’t wait until S4.

~ Caitlin

Hi jaxx,

Yes, I really want to know Bill and Eric’s history. This season would be a good time to show that in a flashback. I remember those first lines Eric uttered to Bill. It sounded like there was an edge Eric’s voice when he said it. There has to be some bad blood there. I think something happened or they just never liked each other. Eric probably wondered why he was back in town because he was suspicous of Bill. Also, a Pam/Eric flashback would be nice. I thought in season 3 that they would have showed one.

jaxx

I really hope that in S4, we see a little more of the history between Eric and Bill in flashbacks. There is definitely something there and they knew each other before. At that first meeting with Sookie at Fangtasia, Eric addressed Bill and said something to the effect that “It’s been a long time”. So they have met quite a few years before. I really would like to see where and when and what transpired during that time. How do they know each other?? Through the Queen?? In the 1800s??? Please AB, inquiries minds want to know. LOL.

~ Caitlin

I don’t think Eric intended to kill Bill. He sent someone to bring Bill to him. However, that is still kidnapping. When Eric arrived at Sookies house in the finale, he did not know that Bill sent a hit out on Pam. Eric didn’t find that out until he got back to Fangtasia and Pam told him. I’m sure he is fuming over that because Pam is his little girl. I agree that Bill and Eric need to learn how to be more civil to each other. They are vampires so that is going to happen anytime soon. Who knows maybe they actually got along better before Sookie came into the picture. Probably not though.

Cate

I do hope Eric gets the amnesia as it does show the other side of him whilst politics are well and good and give the character strength you can’t truly have strength without having your own perceived weakness. Eric must see the soft side of him as his weakness which Us what drives him to such strength and rule. Sometimes it’s good to see a medium to understand the characters present drive.

MsJoanne

We don’t know what became of Eric after watching his family being murdered. He may have become a different man from what we think we know of him. The TB writers will probably handle that in Flashbacks. Also, Sookie and Eric have a bond, which I’m sure will be explained in season four and may or may not be vastly different from the bond they have in the books.

jaxx

Hi Sheila, I’m with you on that girl. Can’t wait for S4. 🙂

jaxx

Yes, vamps heal but if a spell by a witch is put on them, I think that’s a different scenario.

paula

I read true bloods books and eric does get amnesia.

sheila

Yes, he could get Amnesia. But let’s wait to see what AB comes up with. I kinda like some of the scenario’s I have seen on here and think a certian waitress may be the one with the memory issues on the first go round. Bring on S4!!!!!

chris

Eric cant get amnesia, hes a vampire. Vampires heal. i hope sookie gets amnesia, and bill is forever out of the picture, i hope that she falls in love with Eric and Alcide, that would be great!
I’m so exited for next season.. what are some ways to keep my mind busy.. thinking about June, its a long way from now. sucks.

AngMehigan

I just really hope SO4 has Eric running through a field lost, confused and not knowing who sookie is….oh and naked of course lol.
Ahhh good times ahead I think -season 4 will be the best ever.

sheila

I agree. I do think their will be some revenge between Bill and Eric to say the least cause if it were me, Mad would be an understatement. But I also believe that right about now, Sookie wouldn’t really give two cents what could happen to Bill cause she should still be mad as all get out. But I could see Eric going about his revenge in a round about way so he would still come out Sookie’s hero.

sheila

Hi all my fellow TB fans/junkies. I agree with you Jaxx. I think that the personality was always there, but due to the Vamp stuff that Eric’s position reqires of him, He always walks a real fine line between helping Sookie, gaurding his personal feelings, as well as balance his responsibilities to the Vamps he is responsible for overall. I think that S4 will let Eric have a chance to relax for a second and show Sookie he’s got some good in him once in a great while. Although he has gone to great lengths to make it clear he is a Vampire first and will stay true to that. I think they find a new balnce in S4. JMHO

KS Rose

Hi All,

Please remember to read the comment policy and follow it. We do not allow arguing that the show is wrong and the books are right. We do allow discussion of the books but not as part of any attempt to judge or sway the direction of the show. Please remember, although we are all beholden to Charlaine’s wonderful book series this is not the Sookie Stackhouse site, it’s a site devoted to the television show True Blood loosely based on the Sookie Stackhouse novels.

Jean

You are all lucky, I haven,t seen season 3 yet!. Still waiting for the DVD to come out. I think the series is brilliant and I hope they cover all the books so that we have true blood around for a long time!. Please don,t take so long between series, its not fair on the fans and as I am in England we have to wait even longer!!! Alan thank you for a great series.

Christina

The book I suggest to catch
what season 4 is titled
Dead and Gone by Charlaine Harris
It is also book 9 in the series.
I would like to see John Quinn.

Bladerunnernyc

Eric having amnesia goes along with the book series. The entire point is a continuation leading up to Sookie ending up with Eric. Look for Crystal to get pregnant in Season 4- marry the imbecile Jason (He becomes a were-panther btw) and eventually she ends up getting killed and Jason is back to chasing dumb women again.

Either way they have to wrap up the Sookie/Bill romance. After she found out that Bill let her be beaten to near death just to ‘save’ her, she later tells Bill that it was over for them the moment she found out.

Bill does love her, but it is over and he will find a different path of problems suddenly presented to him.

AdoreBill

Hi Lizzie,

That is the main problem I have with the Sookie character as well. How she can jump from one feeling for Bill (confessing her profound love for him) to making out with someone else and oogling another makes is difficult for me to personally to continue to like her. As for the storyline of if Eric gets amnesia as in the book and Sookie falling for him would just not seem plausible based on what has happened up to now in the show (though in the books I didn’t care for it and it didn’t make much sense).

Perhaps that is why lately I have become obsessed with Jeaniene Frost’s Cat and Bones’ Night Huntress series starting with Halfway to the Grave because it is extremely hot, but most of all even though the female lead Cat may be just as inexperienced as Sookie she seems to be able to understand situations that occur and is able to better place herself in other people’s shoes and to be true to her heart. 🙂

Isis Nocturne

Agreed, Lizzie. I personally find myself liking Sookie less and less as time goes on. I see her as the character in the book, since book!Sookie is whiny, a tease, and all about herself. I’m very disappointed to see TrueBlood!Sookie taking the same route, since those characteristics are not what I think the heroine of a story should portray. It makes Sookie a flat, vapid character. JMHO.

lizzie1701

Jaxx, if all those Vampire personality traits, the pressures, Vampire politics etc are gone, what about his old Viking tendencies? He was not a nice person back then. Would they go too? I suppose they would. I still think it is sad that he has to go to basic personality for Sookie to have a chance with him. What happens when the “other real” Eric comes back? She may have lust for him but does not love him (she loves Bill – even though all that nasty business has happened between them, she still has to love him – love just does not go away that quick).

What gets me is that two days ago she is crying her eyes out at the hospital and teary eyed at home thinking about Bill and their breakup, and after dealing with Debbie she continually repeats “I love you” to Bill and gives him Vampire sex and lets him bite her in another sexual act and has that great shower with him where their bodies meld into each other, yet she goes to Eric because she has “feelings’ for him after seeing him with Godric (wtf!!!) and kisses him and then when Alcide comes into Fangtasia, she looks up and is happy Alcide is there to rescue her (even though he isn’t). The girl is a ho or a liar. To say how she loves Bill and has sex then the next day or so kisses Eric and the next day is getting horny about Alcide. Obvious plot devices or the Writers are losing it.

Lena Tum

I became a fan of True Blood this year. I watched Season 1 and 2 to catch up. I just got done watching Season 3. I loved it so much I bought season 1 on DVD and i’m going to be Sookie Stackhouse for Halloween. What I don’t understand is why do they make you wait soooo long to see the next season? Why won’t it come out this year, like other shows? Waiting till next summer will make me forget everything that’s happened so far. Are they only showing one episode per year?
I love it so much. I want to see more now… not next year. 🙁
So dissapointed that I have to wait that long.
True Blood is like my drug. I’m an addict and I don’t want to wait.

jaxx

Lizzie, it’s not so much a “personality change” as Eric’s true personality once you take away all the vamp politics, pressures of being a sheriff and business owner and all the other bs he has to have dealt with and deals with on a daily basis. This is
“Eric in the raw”. This personality is there, it’s just masked by other very stressful pressures over all the years. Eric doesn’t remember who or what he is when the amnesia strikes, so he doesn’t have all these pressures to deal with, only his true personality, jimo.

Sandy

Come on Lizzie – Eric is a Vampire Sheriff! So ya, he has a lot of bad-arse to him! We forget that he is a sheriff since he is so busy doing other stuff on TB.
Bill is/was a procurer for the Queen – not much better!
You know I love ’em both!
Go Team TB!!
Cheers
Sandy

lizzie1701

I also like this scenario the best re the amnesia. Makes more sense. I think the Writers said that Eric would be involved with Vampire politics S4 so I can’t see the amnesia thing being a big thing with Eric S4. Also, the Writers said that Sookie would be spending a lot of time with Alcide in S4. Who knows how it will all pan out! AB is getting all our knickers in a knot!lol!

lizzie1701

So, Eric has to have a “personality” change for her to like him. How sad. I don’t think amnesia brings out the ‘real’ person. The real person is who they are – bar owner, Vamp, maker, employing assassins, wheeler and dealer etc etc – that is who you are. So what happens once the amnesia goes away? Will Sookie dislike the ‘other’ Eric? Very complicated.

Ejaz

Can’t wait for Season 4! I’m a big fan of the books and was initially apprehensive about the new direction that AB took but after the first few episodes I was hooked! Eric’s amnesia plus Bill’s dark side, Sookie’s new discovery about her heritage, Alcide still hanging around and Sam’s past baggage……all good stuff! Bring on Season 4!!

Nancy

These next 8 months are going to be awful! 🙁 I hope that Eric get’s amnesia and not Sookie, even though Sookie getting amnesia does sound like fun. But I believe that the only way Sookie will truly get to know the “real” Eric is by Eric getting amnesia and not having all those barriers up. I loved book 4, so I hope AB pulls some of the main plot from the book and puts the AB twist on it. But then again, I would also like to see Sookie get together with Alcide. That would be amazing. Go True Blood! Question, why can’t the season be longer than 12 weeks? 12 weeks is not enough.

loleaf

Was Eric even trying to assassinate Bill?? Didn’t he just want him brought to him! If I remember correctly didn’t he say to whoever was yelling at on the phone, that he was told that it would be no problem at bringing Bill in originally.. Eric knew from Sookie that Bill was missing, and he panicked when he found out that his men wasn’t the one that had him because of the blood knowledge. But I still don’t believe it was his original plan to have Bill assassinated, would have been to obvious to Sookie and Eric wouldn’t want Sookie to see him in that light!! But that’s JMO!! 😀

loleaf

Great minds think alike.. That’s what I said a couple weeks ago. We know how Alan likes to redirect from what we think to something from way out in left field.. Evil Evil little monkey he is ;).

jaxx

Lizzie, you are right, they both tried to get rid of each other. LOL. Let the games begin.

And, Isis, you’re right too. Two vamps who have been around for a while should act better than that. Is Sookie bringing out this “high school” behavior in them??? LOL. Season 4 should be fun.

jaxx

Good possibility Isis. The twist would be Sookie having the amnesia not Eric. Maybe Claudine will make her forget all the pain she’s been through the past couple of months by giving her amnesia. That would be an interesting twist to see how she then sees everyone in her life, Bill, Eric, Alcide, Jason, Tara, Arlene, etc. I could see this happening. Good speculation. 🙂

Isis Nocturne

That is a very good point, Lizzie. Both vamps have unsuccessfully tried to get rid of each other.

I’m going to optimistically hope that the two can get over themselves at some point in the future and act more maturely, because the immaturity is starting to annoy me. How are we supposed to believe that we have a 1,000 or so year old vampire and a 175 year old vampire who both act like 15 year olds?

lizzie1701

Yes. Eric would be pissed, but so would Bill if he ever found out that Eric had sent an assassin to get him whilst he was dining his girlfriend. I mean, if Eric wanted Bill, why not call? To send an assassin, so that Bill would not reveal that he was selling V, did not bode well for Bill either. Pity Bill will never get to know Eric’s intended treachery (unless Pam or Yvetta let it slip) so he could get even, but then I guess he did, with the cement thing!

Let the best Vamp win.

MarleneEmmett

well who knows~ Maybe we’ll see a real fight between
Eric Northman~ and Bill Compton???
I mean i’d be real pissed at someone who tried to kill me~Wouldn’t you???? Will we find out where Sookie is??

Isis Nocturne

Yes, but at least we can use that, along with the announced amnesia plotline, to start speculating about how Season 4 is going to open up. 🙂

For example, I think we’re going to see Sookie as the amnesia victim in episode 2 because we’re going to see her in the fae world in episode 1.

lizzie1701

We know that Bill lives! Yeah!!!

Sorry, think the amnesia storyline could be cheesey. Thought it stupid int he books.

Looking forward to the feuding between Bill and Eric, though!

jaxx

I really don’t think it told us all that much more. We guessed where Sookie went, we know what Bill did, we know Eric is vengeful, we know Sookie is confused. Did we learn anything we already didn’t know???

nataka

I hate reveals, they mean nothing, we all have to just wait and see!!!!!!!!!!!

roman

Sounds good, but it really just seems like a summary of what happened at the end season 3.