True Blood Season 2 Spoiler: Season Finale Sneak Peek Video

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Missyella September 9, 2009 at 4:48 pm

But Shayne, in the Book he killed Longshadow. yes I know we should not compare the two mediums.

Eric has forgotten over the years his “humanity” as Godric seemed to realise that he has missed his. Thus ending his own life.

Allan has made the Bill/Sookie relationship like a Mills & Boon romantic novel.

Did we forget that in Hard Hearted Hannah the brutality of Bill and Lorena.

No matter that he was an honourable man, he is a Vampite first and foremost.

Shayne September 9, 2009 at 7:04 pm

***But Shayne, in the Book he killed Longshadow. yes I know we should not compare the two mediums.***

In the show, Bill killed Longshadow. That’s all I’m concerned with. I’ve read enough of the books to know what happens in them, but there’s no point in talking about stuff that didn’t happen on the show, cuz, well, in that world, it didn’t happen.

***Allan has made the Bill/Sookie relationship like a Mills & Boon romantic novel.***

I don’t read romance, so I don’t know what a Mills & Boon romantic novel is like, but I don’t really see how that’s a bad thing. The first season was largely about these two people who, for various reasons, thought they would never be able to find love, finding it. There are numerous instances of scenes that show how perfect they are for each other. And I don’t really see why they would do that if they weren’t going to keep them together, or at least put them back together by the end.

***Did we forget that in Hard Hearted Hannah the brutality of Bill and Lorena. ***

Well I don’t know about you, but I certainly didn’t forget those scenes. But you can’t just take those scenes by themselves, you have to take the flashbacks from the next episode with them, because they’re meant to show part of the transformation that Bill went through. You also can’t forget that those scenes in HHH happened roughly 85 years ago – and Bill has changed a great deal since then.

***No matter that he was an honourable man, he is a Vampite first and foremost.***

Yes, he is a vampire, but he never chose to be. And just in the month and a half that he’s been with Sookie, he’s changed so much. He showed that FOTS kid mercy, for one thing, which doesn’t seem to be a very vampire-like thing to do. He’s learning how to rely on Sookie, and to work with her as part of a team, which also doesn’t seem to be a very vampire-like thing to do. He’s striving to overcome his vampire instincts and get his humanity back, and so far he seems to be succeeding.

Missyella September 10, 2009 at 7:39 pm

Hi Shayne,

The Mills & Boon Books are English Romantic novels, being going for so long I cannot remember.

I am so torn between the CH Books and the series. I will do my hardest to not confuse the two.

Will be hard, but I will try lol!!!!!!!!!!

Shayne September 10, 2009 at 7:53 pm

Hey Missyella,

I like both the books and the series – although I guess it’s rather obvious that I like the show more – but I think if I didn’t keep them separate it would ruin my enjoyment of both of them, and that would be a real shame, since they both rock in their own way.

Missyella September 11, 2009 at 6:40 pm

So true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

emily September 9, 2009 at 4:41 pm

@Shayne:

You said:

“I don’t think Bill will be shown to be working with the queen the way he was in the book. Or, if he is, the reasoning for it will make him seem much less like a bad guy than the book did. I have what I believe to be a well-reasoned argument to support this, but I won’t post it here unless someone is interested in seeing it.”

And I am interested in hearing your argument. I am a Bill AND Eric fan, and actually didn’t think even the book reason Bill had for going to Sookie was so bad, but you make it sound like he will be even more sympathetic in the show. If so, how do you think AB will work the Eric storyline in? I think it’ll be hard, going forward, to follow the book plots at all if Sookie and Bill are still together… so I think they’ll likely have to break up (at least temporarily). Do you have a theory on why (and whether) that will happen?

Shayne September 9, 2009 at 3:46 pm

***I agree, the whole Bill/Sookie love thing had to be done the way it was to make it believable, and they have done an awesome job, maybe too good…I just don’t buy into the whole bit about Bill, as a vampire, being as “good” as he is.***

Bill is a good guy, but he isn’t just some tame little vanilla vampire. In the past he was capable of some horrible things, and even now he has a lot of darkness in him. He killed the Rattrays and Uncle Bartlett, and left Malcolm, Liam, and Diane without warning them that trouble was coming. He’s not perfect. But he’s found his way back to his humanity, and he’s trying his best to be a good man for his own sake, as well as for Sookie. I can’t see how that makes him too good.

***He is a vampire after all, and no matter how much he tries to deny it, that is what he will always be.***

He’s never tried to deny that he’s vampire. In fact, when Sookie said, “So you really don’t consider yourself human?” he said, “I’m not human.” I don’t think he tries to pretend otherwise, either. He just tries to live as morally as he can while still being forced to straddle the line between the human world and the vampire one.

***It’s like Pam said in season 1, “If I had a heart, it would be breaking right now”…they don’t have a heart, so therefore how can they possibly love as humans do…or to the extent anyway?***

That’s not really a fair comparison. First of all, just because Pam doesn’t have human feelings doesn’t mean that Bill doesn’t. Pam likes being a vampire, and it would seem, was happy to be made. Bill was made against his will, which has to alter a person’s perspective on the whole deal. We don’t know what Pam was like as a human, but we do know that Bill was a loving, moral, honorable man, and so it doesn’t seem all that surprising to me that he would revert to that once he got clear of Lorena’s influence. After all, it’s not like on Buffy, where a person is turned and they lose their soul. On TB it’s not being made that changes a person, it seems as if it’s the fact that the sudden power goes to their head. Just look at Jessica – she turned into a brat for a bit, but with just a bit of attention from Sookie and Bill, and a bit of love from Hoyt she’s gone back to the sweet girl she started as.

***The humans are refered to as a vampires “pet” so to speak….***

Well, some vampires call humans pets. Eric has mentioned Pam’s pets in the past, but, at least at this point in the story, Pam is something of a cold witch, and so of course she wouldn’t have feelings for a human. On the other hand, Bill has never referred to humans as pets, nor does he treat them as if he thinks of them that way.

***I think any of them are capable of becoming attatched to a human very deeply…even Eric 🙂 he was very loyal and cared very deeply for Goderic, I think he could do the same with Sookie.***

Eric loved Godric, but Godric was his maker, and they lived together for centuries. And yes, I’m sure he could come to care for Sookie in time, but the fact is, he didn’t hesitate to throw her right in harm’s way for Godric’s sake. He also didn’t lift a finger to help her when Longshadow was strangling her, even though he was the reason she was in danger in the first place.

Shayne September 9, 2009 at 1:05 pm

***To me, it’s like if they took the Lord of the Rings trilogy, and made Sam carry the ring instead of Frodo, or had something else being obsessed with the ring instead of Gollumn…People would have been beside themselves to say the least.***

There would have been no reason – I mean no reason required by the demands of adapting the novels to the screen – to make Sam carry the ring instead of Frodo. But there are good reasons for the changes they’ve made on True Blood. For one thing, in the books Bill never seems all that invested in his relationship with Sookie, but it played all right on the page. On the screen, that same lack of investment would have been glaringly obvious, and since the first season was all about Sookie’s romance with Bill, it would have been really hard to get the viewer to buy into a relationship like that. Then, after a full season of doing everything in their power to make Bill into a much better guy than he was in the books, it would ruin the internal consistency of the story if they were to suddenly start following the books in season 2. And if they don’t play Bill the way he was in the books, they have no good reason for Bill and Sookie to split up. And splitting them up for the express purpose of putting Sookie with Eric, without a good reason in the story, would be exceedingly bad storytelling.

***How many times have we felt so passionate about a book and then gotten upset when they make the movie and change major parts about it in the movie…..yes add some things to make it interesting on the screen, but stay true to it at the same time.***

I would argue that AB has stayed true to the spirit of the books, even if he hasn’t followed some of the character arcs to the letter.

Missyella September 9, 2009 at 1:49 pm

How do you think they will write the Sookie/Eric storyline??? I don’t know what Allan Ball can have up his Sleeve!!!!

Oh well ee will all have to be patient!! And keep posting.

Constance September 9, 2009 at 3:11 pm

I agree, the whole Bill/Sookie love thing had to be done the way it was to make it believable, and they have done an awesome job, maybe too good…I just don’t buy into the whole bit about Bill, as a vampire, being as “good” as he is. He is a vampire after all, and no matter how much he tries to deny it, that is what he will always be. It’s like Pam said in season 1, “If I had a heart, it would be breaking right now”…they don’t have a heart, so therefore how can they possibly love as humans do…or to the extent anyway? The humans are refered to as a vampires “pet” so to speak….I think any of them are capable of becoming attatched to a human very deeply…even Eric 🙂 he was very loyal and cared very deeply for Goderic, I think he could do the same with Sookie.

Yes, there is a great storyline with Eric/Sookie, and it can be done in a way, just as Bill/Sookie, that can be amazing….I just hope we get that. Eric is just as passionate about what he cares about as Bill is…also, it will give us more of a chance to enjoy each of the guys acting abilities…I would love to see Bill in other ways as well on the show…not just as smitten with Sookie. They all deserve the chance to show what they can do, to their full capacity.

I think AB has done a fantastic job of staying true to the “spirit” of the books….

It’s only season 2…who knows what the future seasons will bring…I am looking forward to each one!

Constance September 9, 2009 at 12:25 pm

WOW….It’s only Wednesday!!!! Seems like forever since the last episode! Which makes it even worse, knowing that we’ll have to wait til next summer to see more!!

Everyone is always saying “separate the books from the show, they are 2 different stories” that may be true, but I have a really hard time doing that! LOL!

Although I am totally smitten with the show…I sit impatiently waiting for the episodes to come on….wondering where AB is going to take the storyline next, and he is doing an awesome job. As with other great books turned movie/series, I do expect them to stay true to the story line…

How many times have we felt so passionate about a book and then gotten upset when they make the movie and change major parts about it in the movie…..yes add some things to make it interesting on the screen, but stay true to it at the same time.

To me, it’s like if they took the Lord of the Rings trilogy, and made Sam carry the ring instead of Frodo, or had something else being obsessed with the ring instead of Gollumn…People would have been beside themselves to say the least.

The Sookie Stackhouse books have been the best books I’ve read in a long time…I think I read them all in a matter of a few days! LOL…and I can’t wait to read the new one as soon as possible! I have to give AB credit for me wanting to read them in the first place.

I am impressed with, and love every character on Trueblood…they have all made them their own and they are to be commended for their performances…each deserve an Emmy in my opinion!

There have been alot of twists from the books, but, they still have the potential to stay true to the story…we’ll see.

IS IT SUNDAY YET? I’m having withdrawals here!

I’m still hoping for the whole Eric lovestory with Sookie…can’t wait to see him running naked down the road towards Sookies house! Not that I don’t enjoy feasting my eyes on Bill as well…

Britt September 6, 2009 at 12:53 am

So I’ve been re-watching season 1 & 2.. i just dont understand how some people arent totally smitten by Bill & Sookies relationship.. Re-watching it all just makes me love it all over again.. So AMAZING! True love!

Missyella September 6, 2009 at 3:54 pm

Britt, I have found the Bill Compton character far tooo cloying, I suppose it was die to the fact he bacame as he says “Vampire” during the Cival War, whwre Men were supposed to be bore gentlemanly and becoming.

In the Books (if you have read them, I find his use of sex with Sookie as a way to make things better), yes he may love her, or so he tells her but give her body a rest for goodness sakes!!!!

She was injured a couple of times and he wants sex, even when he is in out right pai, I think any woman not enamoured, would tell him to stop, but he has awoken as she says her sexiness.

Don’t forget Sookie was a virgin, when Bill came into Merlotte’s and she was intrigued because she had never seen anyone like him before, therefore the attraction was formed on her part and remember she cannot read his mind, so has no idea what he could be up to!!!!

Shayne September 6, 2009 at 4:33 pm

Britt, I think a lot of it has to do with whether the person in question is drawn to the good guys, or to the ‘bad boys’, as it were. I love Bill – he’s honorable, faithful to the woman he loves, and even though he’s not perfect, he tries very hard to be a good man – and I find the romance scenes between him and Sookie to be incredibly sweet and totally compelling.

But unfortunately, because Bill does try so hard to be a good man, it sometimes makes him look like a bit of a buzzkill, and when he’s being a buzzkill while standing next to Eric’s charming, free-wheeling, bad-boy self, it makes him look even more boring by comparison.

There’s also the fact that a lot of the book fans can’t seem to separate BookBill from ShowBill. They judge ShowBill for BookBill’s actions, and they keep ascribing traits and motives to ShowBill that haven’t been part of the show at all.

Britt September 6, 2009 at 5:22 pm

I’ve read all the books.. and as far as they go, even though Bill made some mistakes, I believe he truly loves Sookie & is a changed man.

I agree that the books and the show should be kept totally different. You cant judge a character on the show for actions he did in the book. Doesn’t make sense. I try and keep the two completely separate.

I just think that the romance scenes between Bill & Sookie are undeniably awesome.

I must admit, I’m a sucker for nice guys.. I married my high school sweetheart 😉

Shayne September 6, 2009 at 5:39 pm

I’m not married, but I, too, am a sucker for nice guys. That’s why, even though I really enjoy watching Eric, I will always like Bill best, Sam and Hoyt second, and Eric third.

Britt September 6, 2009 at 6:03 pm

I will always be a Bill fan to the core. But there’s no doubt about it that Eric is awesome character. I just wish Eric fans would be a little easier on Bill. All the threads I’ve been on some Eric fan’s are just down right mean. I hate it when I see people bashing the actors. Both Stephen and Alexander are undeniably attractive & they are fans of each other.

Alexander has been quoted saying he is Stephen’s biggest fan.

Shayne September 6, 2009 at 6:13 pm

I couldn’t agree with you more. Both actors are awesome and talented, and both bring something extraordinary to the show. I love watching Eric, and I truly think he is a great character, although I think I’d love watching him even more if I wasn’t always so worried about what he was going to try to do to Bill next.

I think it’s great how supportive all the actors are of each other. I’ve not seen a lot of Alex talking about the show, but he seems like a really classy guy. And anything I’ve seen Stephen say about his fellow actors has all been complimentary in the extreme.

***Alexander has been quoted saying he is Stephen’s biggest fan.***

I tend to think it would be more accurate to say he’s Stephen’s second biggest fan, next to Anna, of course. 🙂

cgpunker September 7, 2009 at 11:17 am

I try really hard to separate the books from the show…and while we don’t know if Bill has ulterior motives on the show, we certainly have clues that he’s not all he seems to be.
At this point, I have no idea where we’re going with Bill. I HOPE he’s got more to him.

I used to love Bill in S1. But he just got too one dimensional to me. Plus, I hate love stories where the 2 people don’t really understand each other at all. Where they fall in love with who they WANT the other person to be instead of who they are, warts and all.

It’s why I love the idea of Sookie & Eric. DreamEric is the first person to really identify who Sookie is. She is, like Eric, fiercely loyal to her loved ones and willing to kill for them. Bloodthirsty indeed 🙂 Bill sees that as naivete maybe? Youth? Eric would KNOW there’s no way Sookie would stay put at Lafayettes. She doesn’t have that in her – and it’s not stupidity.

Shayne September 7, 2009 at 12:47 pm

Bill hasn’t had the greatest storyline this year, unfortunately. He’s been continually in a position where he has to sit back and take it while Sookie and Eric made decisions that he knew were foolish, and then react with no plan. It hasn’t given the writers a lot of opportunity to show character development, that’s for sure, except for those few flashback scenes.

***Plus, I hate love stories where the 2 people don’t really understand each other at all. Where they fall in love with who they WANT the other person to be instead of who they are, warts and all.***

I think Sookie was guilty of this in the beginning, trying to convince herself that Bill was a tame vampire, as it were. But this season she’s learned a lot about accepting Bill for who, and what, he actually is, as opposed to just what she wanted him to be. She listened to Jason in the early part of the season when he said “If you love someone, you have to love it all. Otherwise it’s not love.” I think she’s taken that to heart. And as she said, she knows there’s darkness in him, but “when she looks in [his] eyes, that’s what [she] sees.” Not to mention, you have to remember that in show time, they’ve only known each other for approximately 6 weeks. They’re still getting to know each other. On the other hand, I believe Bill understands Sookie just fine. His conversation with Sam in the first season showed that. And since I’m sure the whole reason he started to fall for her in the first place is because she sassed him back when they were sitting out in the woods and didn’t put up with his “nasty mouth”, he knows perfectly well what she’s capable of.

***It’s why I love the idea of Sookie & Eric. DreamEric is the first person to really identify who Sookie is.***

The only problem with this is, DreamEric isn’t really Eric. Eric can’t enter her dreams and participate in them. DreamEric is just the effect of the blood on Sookie’s subconscious, and the reason that ‘he’ can identify who Sookie is so easily, is because he’s just another facet of Sookie’s mind. If you read between the lines, the debate she and DreamEric were having was based on her own inner conflict after learning about Hugo’s desire to be made, and wondering if Bill would want to make her, or if he would continue to love her if she remained human.

***Eric would KNOW there’s no way Sookie would stay put at Lafayettes. She doesn’t have that in her – and it’s not stupidity.***

Of course it’s not stupidity. And Bill totally knew it, too. (She ran out into the parking lot to save him with no regard for her personal safety after knowing him for five minutes. He’d have to be blind to not know what she’s like.) That’s why he had that sad look on his face after she promised, because he knew he wouldn’t be able to count on it. It’s also very likely why he was so anxious to get back to Bon Temps the entire time he was stuck with the queen.

Britt September 7, 2009 at 5:45 pm

I love reading your rebuttals 🙂

I’m curious as to your predictions for the season finale? 😉

Shayne September 8, 2009 at 10:26 am

Um, predictions? Okay.

I think, despite what the preview may make it look like, that Sam and Bill are working together. I figure Bill will tell Sam that Sookie is in danger and Sam will agree to help, cuz Sam is awesome like that. But I also think they might be in for a surprise, cuz I think Maryanne is planning on using Sookie in place of Sam for the ritual. When the queen told Bill about the maenad, she said she wanted a supernatural to sacrifice, and Bill said ‘the two-natured’. I daresay that Sookie qualifies as two-natured, and since it seems as if the ritual was going on when Sam and Bill walked into the middle of it, it didn’t seem as if Maryanne felt the need to wait for Sam any longer.

I think that, along with Maryanne, Eggs will die. And I think Tara might have something to do with his death. When Lafayette was doing the tarot for her a card came up that he said meant ‘a sacrifice of the heart’. That obviously applied to the Hunter’s Souffle that Tara and Eggs ate, but I think it applied to something more as well. This is a total guess, but I’m wondering if Tara has to kill Eggs to save someone else, and that’s why it shows Sookie in the preview saying, “I am so, so sorry.”

I don’t think Bill will be shown to be working with the queen the way he was in the book. Or, if he is, the reasoning for it will make him seem much less like a bad guy than the book did. I have what I believe to be a well-reasoned argument to support this, but I won’t post it here unless someone is interested in seeing it.

Missyella September 5, 2009 at 8:28 am

I do not know what AB has in store for Eric’s character, but please make it be good.

He is not a “Monster” but is slowly being portrayed as one, in the show.

I thought the Eric pleading for his Maker’s life, was true to form, yes Eric has lost his humanity after a 1,000 years, but I think once you lose your Maker you are effectively lonely!! And I think he is lonely, yes he has Pam and Chow, but it is not the same.

The scene with Arlen’s children, I did not think was strange, he was asked a question about his fangs, he did as requested and Sam’s reaction would have alarmed them, Eric and Pam discussing their merits in Swedish was funny, when will they come into contact with Children and yes they are delightful and delicious!!!! as Children can be, without any thoughts on the dark side.

AS plays the part to perfection, long may he reign!!!!!!!

Shayne September 4, 2009 at 10:44 pm

***Wow. Eric as a monster for being nice to those kids and joking with Pam? THE HORROR!!!***

I’m one of the ones who didn’t read it as Eric joking with Pam, and I have to say that, not only did it creep me out more than a little, it made me think worse of him than almost everything else has. It’s almost like they took the bad traits out of Godfrey to make Godric, and then gave those bad traits to Eric. In one of the earlier eps this season, 1.06, I think it was, Eric is feeding on that girl who calls him baby, and he says that the thrill of feeding is gone for him now that all of his snacks are willing. That put a bad taste in my mouth, too, because it basically implies that he gets a thrill out of taking what he wants by force.

***He was downright sweet to Lisa – with no threat at all in his voice.***

Of course he wouldn’t use a threatening tone. Just because he wants to drink her blood doesn’t mean that he would want to hurt her. Also, that would somewhat defeat the purpose of switching to a language that no one but Pam understands. And along with the fact that he wouldn’t want to scare the kids, Sam was sitting right there, and he wouldn’t stand for it if he thought Eric was threatening Lisa.

***I think alot of people misunderstood that scene. Or maybe I’m a monster, because I thought AS played it delightfully.***

I thought AS did a great job, as well. But I think that about Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lecter, and Michael Emerson as Ben Linus, too. AS is wonderful, and I really like Eric as a character as well – he’s a joy to watch, and it’s obvious he’s having fun playing the part – but I don’t think, at least in AB’s version of things, that Eric is a good guy. Or at least he isn’t yet.

BLF September 5, 2009 at 3:50 am

As someone who is very sensitive to violence against children, I actually did not take that scene as threatening to the kids (and I have rewatched it to be sure). Eric is not perfect (agree he has blured the lines between good and bad in vamp and human standards) and being around 1000 years past what should have been his lifespan and only active during the night and owning a bar… how often would he interact with kids. PLus the added reaction of pulling Pam’s chain.
Sam’s reaction was part prejudice against the vamps and supernatural, he has no reason to trust anyone (even with the nice speech he gave)…

I would love to ask Alan Ball about this scene now and his intentions when he wrote it.

Also, the scene you were referencing was 2.05 Hard Hearted Hannah with the comments around loosing the thrill of the hunt now that vamps are in the open. I took that more as a male reaction as someone who enjoys the the seduction of the moment; not that he just took it by force. He is to complex for that.

(I swear I spend more time on the boards defending Eric)

cgpunker September 7, 2009 at 10:57 am

***Wow. Eric as a monster for being nice to those kids and joking with Pam? THE HORROR!!!***

***Um, Eric is a vampire. They are hunters. Killers. Just because they are mainstreaming now doesn’t change the past – for any of them. They all at some time in the past (as we saw so gruesomely with Bill & Lorena) killed with pleasure and abandon. And he’s not a self hating vampire like Bill, he’s a life loving vampire.

We know that kids and virgins are delicious to vampires. I stare longingly at chocolate mousse on the dessert cart all the time without doing anything about it. Doesn’t make me a bad person.

But really – that was all about Pam. Pam & Eric have a wonderful functional master/maker relationship.

***He was downright sweet to Lisa – with no threat at all in his voice.***

***And what would Sam do exactly? Threaten ERIC? Eric was barely taking Sam seriously as it was. I liked how Eric stayed true to himself and showed the kids his fangs – he’s a vampire, deal with it.

Did you see the way Eric was looking at Sookie in Scratches? Eyes glazed over, no movement, fangs out? That’s the want for blood. Didn’t see it in that scene.

***I think alot of people misunderstood that scene. Or maybe I’m a monster, because I thought AS played it delightfully.***

***AB has absolutely made Eric a good guy. A one dimensional one? No. He’s complicated – as any 1000 year old survivor should be.

I’m not sure why you’d expect a vampire like Eric to have much interest in human concerns at his age. He simply doesn’t have the capacity for bullshit at this point. He started out as a Viking and then became a vampire. He’s up front about what he wants and then he goes after it. He’s good to Pam, keeps Ginger the dingbat employed, he always helps when he’s asked (and in true vampire fashion, wants something back, but he does help!), he tried to help Bill with Jessica, he cared deeply about Godric, he allows Bill to exist in his area blah blah blah.

Eric is no more purely bad than Bill is purely good. And the writers bend over backwards on this. We’ve seen Bill do PURELY evil things on this show – and good. And same with Eric. But since Eric is the anti – hero, he gets that villain label.

Shayne September 7, 2009 at 2:08 pm

******Um, Eric is a vampire. They are hunters. Killers. Just because they are mainstreaming now doesn’t change the past – for any of them. They all at some time in the past (as we saw so gruesomely with Bill & Lorena) killed with pleasure and abandon. And he’s not a self hating vampire like Bill, he’s a life loving vampire.***

There are two main differences that I see between Bill and Eric. The first is that Bill was doing what he did directly because of Lorena – she forced him to walk a path that he never would have willingly walked on his own. And the second thing is, despite the power of Lorena’s influence, Bill managed to find himself again. He changed, for no other reason than that he knew it was right.

***We know that kids and virgins are delicious to vampires. I stare longingly at chocolate mousse on the dessert cart all the time without doing anything about it. Doesn’t make me a bad person.***

Of course it doesn’t, but chocolate mousse isn’t alive. And it’s not the fact that Eric looked like he wanted a taste, it was the fact that he said ‘delicious’, which, to me, implies that he knows they are because of personal experience.

I’m not saying Sam would be in any way effective against Eric, but what could Eric do to Sam in the middle of his open club? The fact of the matter is, Eric does his own version of mainstreaming, too – not like Bill, but he makes an effort to be civilized. Not to mention, I doubt he would want to reinforce Sam’s already poor view of him – not because he cares what Sam thinks, per se, but because he wouldn’t want Sam spreading that kind of stuff around.

***Did you see the way Eric was looking at Sookie in Scratches? Eyes glazed over, no movement, fangs out? That’s the want for blood. Didn’t see it in that scene.***

That’s the want for Sookie’s blood, in particular. (He didn’t look all entranced like that when he was feeding from that chick.) She tastes different, and one would assume her blood likely smells different, too – and that would be exceedingly obvious to Eric what with it open to the air like that.

***AB has absolutely made Eric a good guy. A one dimensional one? No. He’s complicated – as any 1000 year old survivor should be.***

I have to argue on this one. I’m not saying that Eric is the bad guy. Eric is one of the good team, if you will. He’s not a bad guy, and he’s certainly not a villain the way some people are making him out to be, but he’s more morally ambiguous. He’s a good character, but he’s not a ‘good guy’ the way Bill is a good guy. Of course he’s complicated, and that is absolutely how it should be.

***He’s good to Pam, keeps Ginger the dingbat employed, he always helps when he’s asked (and in true vampire fashion, wants something back, but he does help!), he tried to help Bill with Jessica, he cared deeply about Godric, he allows Bill to exist in his area blah blah blah.***

Pam is his child, so I would hope he would be good to her. And Godric was a good maker, so it’s not surprising that he cared deeply for him. I don’t think he cares a whole lot about Ginger one way or the other. Yes, he always helps when he’s asked, but the fact is, he always has an ulterior motive, so it’s hard to judge just how much of that is him being good and how much is him being self-serving. He didn’t agree to take Jessica until Bill said he would owe him a favor.

This is probably going to sound funny, but the one nice thing I think he’s done for Bill is taking Jessica back to him. Not that it seemed nice at the time, but I think that was actually something that he was doing, at least in part, ‘for’ Bill, rather than ‘to’ Bill. Eric has had a good relationship with his maker, and with his child, and those relationships are important to him. I think, in the few-and-far-between moments when he’s not angry with Bill, he actually kind of likes him, and I think he wanted Bill to have the same thing with Jessica that he has with Pam.

***Eric is no more purely bad than Bill is purely good. And the writers bend over backwards on this. We’ve seen Bill do PURELY evil things on this show – and good. And same with Eric. But since Eric is the anti – hero, he gets that villain label.***

I don’t think Eric is purely bad at all. And of course Bill’s not purely good. But Bill has changed, has made the choice to be better than he was. And it’s not just a momentary flight of fancy for him, either – he made the choice a long time ago, for his own sake, because that’s the kind of man he was, so it can’t be said that he’s doing it just for Sookie. We’ve seen him rise above his instincts as a vampire, we’ve seen him show mercy for the sake of mercy alone. (He could have killed that kid out front of Godric’s nest and no one would have been the wiser, but he let him go because it was the right thing to do.) That’s what makes him the ‘good guy’. I don’t think it’s quite fair to call Eric the villain, though. I’d say, because he’s on the good team but is actively trying to steal Sookie away from Bill, that he’s more like Bill’s foil.

lafemmetopaz September 4, 2009 at 10:08 pm

As a book reader and a fan of Eric, I don’t care if the show goes with the triangle. In fact, at this point I would prefer it not to happen. Eric deservers better than TB Sookie. Eric is neither naive, so why would it be good for him to be with something who is naive? I wouldn’t call Sookie a free spirit, I would call her worldly, nor sophisicated. So why should a 1000 year old vampire develop a romantic relationship with someone who is neither of the those things?

I like the character of Eric. I like a kick butt Eric, not a vulnerable Eric begging his maker not to leave him. I like the Eric who is a survivor and by any means necessary gets what he wants. I don’t understand why so many expect Eric to play by human rules of etiquette and decorum. The character is a vampire, he’s not human.

Were two seasons into show and we still haven’t seen a actual love scene with Alex/Eric. We’ve given dream sequences.. wth? Get on with Alan Ball, bring in another love interest or interests for Eric to fool around with. As it’s looking on the show, Eric appears to be celebate.

Shayne September 4, 2009 at 10:18 pm

Eric has willing people throwing themselves at him all the time. I doubt he’s celibate. In ep 1.04 he told Sookie that he had ‘tasted’ Dawn, but judging by what Dawn says to Jason while they’re fighting, he did a lot more than just drink her blood. Looking like he does, I’m sure he has lots of sex. It’s just that, like with Lafayette, we don’t get to see it.

Loleaf September 4, 2009 at 7:21 pm

If that is Sam being sacrificed after Bill taking him to Mary Anne, and Bill holding Sookie back. With Eric telling Sookie that Bill will destroy anyone to keep her safe. You have to wonder if this will drive a wedge between Bill and Sookie!!! She already go mad at him once asking him if human life means nothing to him that he could kill at will. I just hope that it isn’t because I love Sam Tramell and he plays the chacter of Sam spot on with the book character!!! But thats JMO

Shayne September 4, 2009 at 10:12 pm

In the blurb for the finale it says something to the effect of, ‘Sam places his trust, and his life, in the hands of an unlikely ally.’ I’m guessing that Bill tells him Sookie’s life is in danger, which would make Sam willing to help him, and they cook up some sort of plan together.

Sam is way too cool to die. Not to mention, if Bill really did sacrifice him to save Sookie, I doubt Sookie would forgive him any time soon. And since AP and SM filmed a scene of them dancing together to “Before The Night Is Over” – I’m guessing it will be one of the last scenes of the ep – I doubt you have to worry about Bill getting Sam killed.

Loleaf September 5, 2009 at 1:37 pm

You know if it is Sam on the alter getting stabbed that will be our cliff hanger for this season!!! Rutina said on Chelsey Lately that this season will be a extreme cliffhanger!! I don’t think it is Sam either though maybe Eggs.. Also, I can’t see the dancing happening after someone getting sacrificed, because I don’t think Sookie can dance with Bill after telling whomever it is that she is sorry for them getting stabbed!! Whatever happen’s we will have about nine months to pine over it!!! OMG!!.. What will we do during this time!!! Good thing for DVD players and OnDemand!!LOL!!

Christine September 3, 2009 at 8:13 pm

I’m a BILL fan to the core! & yes I’ve read all the books.

I could sit here and name off the numerous bad things Eric has done. But I wouldn’t waste the time, because I dont need to bash Eric in order to make Bill look better.I would rather discuss the great things about Bill than bash on another great character. Let’s face it, they are both great characters and bring a lot to the books, no matter which one we want to see Sookie with they are both great.

I believe Bill truly loves Sookie and in the end I think they will end up together. And that’s all that matter’s to me.

Constance September 3, 2009 at 10:35 pm

I love Bill’s character on the show…he does an awesome job…I just prefer Eric to him….as far as the characters go. As far as Sookie…in the end? She can’t be with Eric or Bill unless she is turned…so therefore, I would hope she and Sam are together in the end. In the books, it was Eric who saved Sookie from Longshadow, not Bill…so take those brownie points away, and also in the books Eric doesn’t really do the bad things they are having him do on the show. I actually felt sorry for Bill in the last books, because it is obvious that he did actually love Sookie, but it was Eric who was there for her most of the time. The tv show is playing it different and that makes it interesting, it just causes more negative vibes toward Eric than is warranted. And what are all the die hard Bill fans going to say and feel when Sookie hooks up with Quinn? I didn’t like it in the books, much less on the show…and I’m an Eric/Sookie fan…. Who knows who Sookie will end up with…I just no it’s going to be interesting watching to find out.I like the Bill character lots better on the show than in the books, and yes Steven Moyer is very nice looking…and a great guy, which is probably why Anna and he are engaged. So…I guess Bill and Sookie end up together after all! LOL… 🙂

Shayne September 4, 2009 at 10:01 pm

***In the books, it was Eric who saved Sookie from Longshadow, not Bill…so take those brownie points away***

This is the show, not the books – they have become two separate entities – so you can’t take those brownie points away. Bill did the staking, and paid the price for it, so those points are all his.

***it just causes more negative vibes toward Eric than is warranted.***

But on the show those negative vibes are warranted. Saying that Eric didn’t do those things in the books doesn’t excuse his actions on the show.

***And what are all the die hard Bill fans going to say and feel when Sookie hooks up with Quinn?***

With all that AB has changed so far, what’s to say that Quinn will even be used as a love interest at all? Because SM has a contract and won’t be able to be written out of the show the way CH wrote Bill out of the books, it would make more of a love square. And while a triangle can be believable, four players feels like one too many to me. Also, I don’t remember the Bill/Sookie/Sam triangle in the first book the way it was on the show – maybe instead of introducing Quinn they’d use Sam again instead.

Nia September 10, 2009 at 12:13 pm

Gosh, can’t we just enjoy the show without the constant comparison to the books????
Remember this is a thread about the season finale not a book review!
Go Team True Blood!

mairemor September 3, 2009 at 3:11 pm

Well, it looks like AB’s finally done it–He’s destroyed the triangle by pairing Eric and Sophie-Anne, and by definitively turning Eric into an Iago plotting to off Bill. It’s pretty obvious where this is heading…OOC Eric called in Lorena (NOT in the SVMs) and now he’s going to hand Bill to her somehow. Let’s see how many Eric fans watch next season now that Eric is a total monster and there’s no real chance of ESN and zip chance of LTR.Also, AB made the attraction all about the blood bond *sighs* BTW lots of WIKI members were totes turned off by Eric (not joking, saying it in Swedish so the kids didn’t get it) comment in Swedish that the children are delish. More evil monster, Eric…

Vi September 3, 2009 at 5:02 pm

You mean because promo trailers always show exactly what will happen in an episode, right?

Isis_Nocturne September 3, 2009 at 6:36 pm

I didn’t realize that Alan’s contract with Charlaine over the True Blood show said that he had to take 100% of his storylines from the books… These are two different mediums, and different stories in their own rights…

Constance September 3, 2009 at 6:42 pm

Kids blood is a delicacy for ALL vampires because it is pure and untainted. As far as Eric being a monster…you obviously haven’t read the books. And I doubt very seriously that Bill would be killed off since he signed a 7 year contract with the show. And Bill is certainly no innocent vampire himself…do you forget he fed off humans for years before mainstreaming…and how convenient, he only feeds from Sookie….gues he needs to keep that whole blood bond going with her. Seems she is always needing to heal fast from the problems arising from Bill 🙂

cgpunker September 4, 2009 at 10:57 am

Wow. Eric as a monster for being nice to those kids and joking with Pam? THE HORROR!!! He was downright sweet to Lisa – with no threat at all in his voice. I think alot of people misunderstood that scene. Or maybe I’m a monster, because I thought AS played it delightfully.

Eric’s no more of a monster than Bill is – and we have no idea what happens with Eric & the Queen – just as we have no idea about Bill’s PAST with the Queen.

What I love about this show *is* it’s departure from the books.

Part of me kind of hopes Eric does become a bigger badass. I almost don’t care if he ends up with Sookie, as long as we get MORE. I deprogrammed S1 of this show out of my Tivo after the 3rd episode. The whole Sookie/Bill thing was such a snooze – where was the vampire story? Then I caught Ep 4 later and once they introduced Eric & Pam I came back. I read the books between seasons, and started watching S2 because I knew we’d be getting more real vampire. And I’ll be back for S3 for the same reason.

val September 6, 2009 at 12:32 pm

I COMPLETLEY agree with U!! Eric/Alex is my fav guy and I LOVE his character in the series! His also is a great actor and funny as well as sexy! “teacup humans” was a great line and the kids wern’t scared of him AT ALL! Those kids were in no danger with him,(Pam maybe!) He almost seemed to enjoy talking to them!

Nia September 10, 2009 at 12:09 pm

Actually it was the whole Bill/Sookie thing that put True Blood on the entertainment map. A snooze? Never! Not in my book or in many others.
Alan Ball has said that True Blood is mainly about Bill and Sookie. That Eric is thrown into the mix is for pure drama. You need that kind of drama to keep things fresh. I am a Bill and Eric fan. The problem with many other fans is that they constantly compare the show to the books. They will never be completely the same and shouldn’t be. Both Stephen and Alex said the same thing.
I had read all the books long before S1 ended and I am a bigger fan of the show!
I am so looking forward to the finale and many seasons to come. Lets give this show our full support!
Team True Blood!

Shayne September 4, 2009 at 9:48 pm

In the show, the blood bond is created when a human drinks a vampire’s blood, not when the vampire drinks a human’s blood. And Bill feeding only from Sookie is his way of showing his faithfulness to her. In the books he feeds off other people, and a lot of the readers used it against him, saying that drinking someone else’s blood was like cheating on her. That’s why he said no, until the queen forced him to feed on that dude.

If you trace things back to their origins, all the trouble Sookie gets into isn’t because of Bill at all. She was the one who wanted to go to Fangtasia in the first place, not Bill. She was the one who outed her secret in front of Eric, thereby gaining his interest, not Bill. Bill took Sookie back to Fangtasia because Eric ordered him to bring her there, not because he wanted to take her. It wasn’t Bill’s fault that the maenad went after Sookie. Nor was it his fault that she wound up captured by the fellowship, or by Mary Ann.

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shutterbugg01 September 3, 2009 at 1:26 am

In one of the interviews of Bill he says something about a Mysterious Tree when asked about how to get rid of Mary Ann. Has anyone else seen this interview?

Christine September 3, 2009 at 1:30 am

oohh maybe sam can shift into a tree? lmao..

who knows

Isis_Nocturne September 3, 2009 at 6:34 pm

Maybe it has something to do with that sacrificial “tree” that we saw Maryann and Karl and Eggs working on…

Options September 3, 2009 at 12:05 am

The one thing Im looking forward to from the finale is that the Maryann storyline is finally gonna die and we’ll be rid of it… AMEN!

Constance September 2, 2009 at 11:32 pm

The spoiler looks awesome! It is going to be a loooong wait til the 13th! I hope Maryann is finally done for…but I also hope they reveal that Bill has been working for the Queen where Sookie is concerned. And maybe stop making it look like Eric is so bad, desperate and sneaky. Maybe he’s pretty smart after all…Sookie didn’t fall in love with Bill til AFTER she drank his blood when he conveniently showed up AFTER the Rattrays had beaten her to near death…so who can say if she’d actually feel the same about him if she hadn’t drank it….guess we will never know! LOL…I think I’m too hooked on this show! See you all during the finale! :)~

Isis_Nocturne September 3, 2009 at 5:26 pm

Uh, WRONG! Why don’t you go on itunes and listen to what Alan Ball has to say on the subject. It’s part of the True Blood podcast… 20-something minutes.

Also, Sookie has the ‘love at first look’ thing with Bill the MINUTE she notices him in Merlotte’s. Yes, later that night he saves her life after she saves his, but still… The emotion was there BEFORE the blood exchange!

Constance September 3, 2009 at 6:21 pm

Wow…intense 🙂
But, there is a difference in infatuation or intrigument and love, that is what it looked like to me. IMO.

Isis_Nocturne September 3, 2009 at 6:33 pm

Maybe I’m just a sucker for love, but from that first moment on screen together, I saw sparks, and the way that they looked at each other… To me, as a film major, it fit really well into the show to show that instant attraction, and love at first sight, then instantly add to that chemistry with the “Bill saved Sookie’s life” bit.

Looking at the show as a film student, I still don’t see any sort of chemistry between Paquin and Skarsgard, except for friendship. As cute as I think Alex is, he and Anna just can’t pull off their characters being “in love” because to me it looks like they’re working WAY too hard on it! If it’s not there, it’s not there.

Constance September 3, 2009 at 7:00 pm

Well, they looked pretty hot and sparks were flying in my living room! And everyone else I talked to that watches the show. I think if you are a die hard Bill fan, it’s just hard to swallow Sookie with anyone else…guess it will be the same when they put her with all the other guys she ends up dating as well. I never could warm up to Quinn in the books, because I was so much an Eric fan. I like Bill, but I am looking forward to the Eric storyline…I just hope they don’t keep up the whole deal with making it look like Eric is responsible for everything that comes between Bill and Sookie…though it is AB’s show….that is totaly not how it is in the books….the only tricky thing Eric did was getting Sookie to suck the bullets from him…Eric had nothing to do with Sookie and Bill not being together…that was ALL Bill dishonesty with Sookie. Guess we’ll see how it plays out, but I will, and so will so many others, continue to pull for Eric and Sookie.

Shayne September 4, 2009 at 7:59 pm

I don’t have iTunes. Do you suppose you could paraphrase what AB says in the Podcast?

na September 6, 2009 at 4:55 pm

bill is great and nothing will come in between them

Shayne September 6, 2009 at 5:05 pm

As much as I wish the last part of that was true, I have a sneaking suspicion that is NOT what AB said in the podcast.

Also, na, would it be too much to ask that you not resort to cursing and name-calling? It tends to make us all look bad.

Elizabeth September 2, 2009 at 10:22 pm

I was a bit confused as in the beginning Sookie is cradling Bill, but at the end, Bill is behind Sookie and she is restrained trying to get to someone, who I guess is Sam. Oh the wait!!!!!

Valerie September 2, 2009 at 9:25 pm

I just want Maryann to die! Everyone else should live.

Christine September 2, 2009 at 8:03 pm

*SPOILER*

WELL, THIS IS MY GUESS WHAT WILL HAPPEN AT SEASON FINALE

It says in the synopsis for the finale

’“Sam places his trust, and his life, in a most unlikely ally.”

I’m guessing that Bill & Sam have some sort of plan to give up Sam to Maryanne (but making it look like Bill has forced him, so Maryanne doesn’t get suspicious ) because the only way she can be defeated is when she thinks she has accomplished whatever the hell she is trying to with Sam.

I also think that Bill & Sam wont have anytime to let any one else in on their plan. So Sookie and the rest of the gang will probably be thinking Bill made Sam surrender to Maryanne. Possibly what Sookie is apologizing for.

I’m gonna guess that Sam probably gets hurt… but I’m almost positive they wont kill off his character.

In an interview Sam Trammel says that “Sam” turns into one tiny animal and one very large animal this season. Now we’ve seen him turn into a fly.. but not something very large. So I’m guessing this will play a part in the finale.

I also read an interview that said “Maryann will be vanquished, but no one character will single-handedly takes her out, but rather it will be a group effort by all of the good guys.”

So I’m gonna say it’s Maryanne that dies.

Isis_Nocturne September 2, 2009 at 7:10 pm

OMG! The finale is gonna be INCREDIBLE!!!

Carolyn September 2, 2009 at 7:07 pm

what the HECK? looks AMAZING!!!! I can not wait i just can not describe how much I need to see this and how good this looks!!

JohnC September 2, 2009 at 7:50 pm

i don’t wanna spoil anything i’m just gonna share what i think is going to happen…

bill and sam are going to think of a plan (since the queen said maryann just has to THINK she is gonna sacrifice or whatever) then sam is going to tell sookie when he gets there but through his mind…like she is going to read his mind and sam will tell her the plan so maryann doesn’t hear. That’s just what i think, i dunno about the rest. I hope Hoyt and Jessica are still going to be together. I just don’t want to be left on a cliffhanger like it says up top.

Stephanie September 3, 2009 at 9:10 pm

If things were going bookwise we’d kno what was going on. Sam can’t die (he’s needed later on) and Lafayette should already be dead (but I’m glad he’s not)! This makes it exciting all over again! GO TEAM Eric!!! Bill’s a CHEAT!!!! (but only if AB follows the book) I can’t remember the last time I was excited by a book/tv series.

na September 6, 2009 at 4:47 pm

go team bill

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